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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 21:16:25 GMT -5
Hey, I want to make some sort of mortar system for airsoft. I'd like it to Michigan legal (no pyro) but I really don't like the idea of a shower of BBs. I know there are ways out there to use M203 rounds in a tube but again, I don't like the shower thing. I'm trying to figure a way to make a round that will project BBs on impact or time delay that will be solid enough to launch at least 200 feet but not heavy enough to be dangerous if it lands on someone. Safety and legality is a big issue. Any ideas? Before you all say it can't be done, it's a stupid idea, or I'm an idiot, let me say, I don't care. I'm looking for bright ideas and negative criticism will not be acknowledged.
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Post by bigc on Feb 9, 2009 21:31:45 GMT -5
You could use a PVC pipe and make a "potato gun" type of mortar but instead of a spud you could use some wadding and dump the bb's in.
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Post by cqbr on Feb 9, 2009 21:32:00 GMT -5
You could use a M203 shell/HPA Rig to propel a Tornado grenade with a NERF vortex mini football tail attached to it. Set the Tornado fuse to the longest setting, pull the pin and drop it in the tube like a real mortar.
Huh, that's actually a good idea in theory, I think I may try that...I have nothing else to say.
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Post by King on Feb 9, 2009 21:33:27 GMT -5
A Tornado grenade dropping out of the sky aimed at players would be anything but a good idea.
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Post by crazyrabbit on Feb 9, 2009 21:35:36 GMT -5
Hmm, a hard projectile flying through the air? I really wouldn't care, but i don't think many people would want to run the risk of getting hit in the head. Good in theory, bad in action.
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Post by Kilo Oscar Tango on Feb 9, 2009 21:35:40 GMT -5
Nerf football, tube, gas. That's basically how it's done. RPG rules for the landing munitions.
The inherent problems with mortar: accurately landing the munition is difficult, the object fired will be susceptible to wind and brush on the way down, getting people within the "kill" range to actually call themselves out, and loading and regulating the gas.
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Post by Knife on Feb 9, 2009 21:35:49 GMT -5
Well, without using a previously designed timed delay grenade, it would be pretty hard. If you're not gonna do a shower, you're gonna need a pretty heavy launching system. HPA as mentioned would probably be the easiest thing to use. If you're really trying to do a time delay or something that 'explodes' over the target, you could *possibly* make some kind of shell, and attach some kind of wire to the end at a given distance. Not sure it would be very reliable, but you'd be able achieve an airbust type effect.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 21:36:08 GMT -5
Those are both good ideas, but I would like something that's not just a shower of BBs, or safe enough. I think those tornadoes would hurt someone coming down from over 100 feet in the air. I have a few ways using pyro that would actually be safer, but I'd like to actually use it! As far as a wire, that could be a great idea. The only problem I see is having something heavy enough to have sufficient energy to launch a distance and pull the wire, but not enough to hurt someone.
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Post by crazyrabbit on Feb 9, 2009 21:40:20 GMT -5
A kid in North Carolina made a potato gun mortar. I believe he had it hooked up to some sort of CO2 or HPA rig with a ball valve for on/off function. He loaded it with .12's and the thing actually went really far.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 21:44:18 GMT -5
did it send a projectile that later propelled BBs or did it shower? Can anyone think of a way to make a baking soda-vinigar way of shooting BBs? That way if could be safe, legal, and disposable. Maybe focusing the force could have enough energy? Just a thought. I'd like it to be able to hit a target further than a regular AEG, because that's the whole purpose of a real mortar system. Greater firepower and distance.
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Post by cqbr on Feb 9, 2009 21:44:19 GMT -5
A Tornado grenade dropping out of the sky aimed at players would be anything but a good idea. Well duh, but thats the only thing that would cover his original idea since he doesn't want to shoot the BB's out of the tube by themselves. You have a cool idea Shadow, but everyone won't get the knots out of their undies long enough for you to actually use it in a game. It's pretty much going to be a showpiece/YouTube video item.
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Post by Phantom G3 on Feb 9, 2009 21:45:33 GMT -5
An airsoft mortar would be something different than just the normal guns shooting all the time. I agree with Knife. Now I'm tempted to look it up on youtube...
EDIT: Maybe instead of bbs you could have baby powder shower down to give you a sort of blast radius. A stupid thought but would be a little funny seeing people light up white.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 21:46:59 GMT -5
I did a search on youtube and google. All I seem to find are shower systems. I'd like for something a little more real. If we can find a way to make this, the same concept could apply to a more realistic under barrel grenade launcher.
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Post by crazyrabbit on Feb 9, 2009 22:03:12 GMT -5
The one in NC was just a shower. The only way I could see this working for a projectile would be to put bb's in a bag and have a firecracker lit to rip the bag after X amount of time. You would just have to get past the fact that it is "pyro" and I believe even little firecrackers are illegal *like everyone listens to that*.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 22:22:07 GMT -5
I know, I tried the M80 thing before by launching a plastic easter egg shell with bbs and the firecracker in it. It worked, but the plastic shrapnel was way too dangerous. I don't want to use pyro if I don't have to. Is there a way to launch a loaded spring that will release on impact? That way it can be legal, somewhat light, and strong enough to shoot .12s. Another thought, what about producing a cloud of flour instead of BBs. Also, if I could make some sort of sabot round that would fall apart during flight and then shower on a target. Kind of a heavier artillery idea instead of a light mortar. I think artillery is a vital part missing in airsoft.
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