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Post by Embed on Feb 9, 2009 22:38:51 GMT -5
Speaking of shower mortars, here's an old prototype i made a couple years ago. It never saw field use for obvious reasons, mainly because by the time the bb's decelerate they don't have enough force for people to feel them/call hits. It was more to see if I could do it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXDPVp9BzQ
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Post by Dingo™ on Feb 9, 2009 22:41:34 GMT -5
Having a functioning mortar implemented into airsoft would be totally awesome. That would open the door for more intense games, new objectives, and a helluva good time! Hope you can put something together...
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 22:50:27 GMT -5
I'm glad you're as excited as I am. If we can get this, it could lead to larger artillery that can devistate enemy positions, more realistic M203 rounds, and so much more. 'Snipers' and scouts would become more useful in combination with mortar and artillery teams. I think I may have something! What if you could have a round that is a light plastic tube, with a foam rounded tip for safety. In the tube, there is a spring with a plunger to project the flour/bbs. When the round hits the ground, the foam tip compresses into the tube and releases the trigger. The back end is only closed by heavy paper or thin cardboard so that the spring can push it open. If you still can't visualize this, I'm drawing plans now, and it really looks like a penis. That would strike fear into the opposition. IT'S RAINING EXPLODING PENISES!!! You could also just fire a sound emitting device. Anyone who hears it is out. (I know, LAME)
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Post by Dingo™ on Feb 9, 2009 22:56:26 GMT -5
IT'S RAINING EXPLODING PENISES!!! It would be a sad day if I heard someone shout that during a game...
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 9, 2009 23:02:30 GMT -5
Ehhh, I've heard worse..... Either way, it's just the shape I see being the easiest, most effective, and most efficient. Another thought, what if I could launch a heavy object that goes far, but has a parachute and when it reaches the peak of the parabola, it flips and the parachute catches. So now it's upside down, and coming down slowly and safely. From there I have my firing platform. I could either allow the BBs and flour to drop (LAME) or be projected downward over a target. Once fired, the main device falls safely to the ground. Also, those nerf whistlers could add a lot of fun to this idea.
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Post by El Phantasamo on Feb 9, 2009 23:51:09 GMT -5
I have been researching an airsoft mortar myself for several years. I have the tube all figured out, but the ammo has been a issue. I came across one fellow who makes light foam replicas of mortar rounds. He even came up with a "cap firing" system to make a loud pop on impact. www.milsimlabs.com/He has youtube videos demonstrating his products. Keep in mind his mortar demo was done in a small back yard, so the power output was greatly reduced. He's also working on A "Fragmentation" round for airsoft M203 type launchers. It's still a prototype, but Im sure it could be adapted for a Mortar. Ill send him an E-mail tomorrow, and let you know his response.
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Post by bigj on Feb 10, 2009 3:58:31 GMT -5
I don't know... It seems any projectile of sufficent weight to travel more than a hundred feet or so with a payload of whatever will be too heavy to safely fire off. I can see a lot of people getting pissed, if not hurt, by taking a flying penis to the face that then pops it's load all over you.
Just stick with claymore's or lame "Shower" mortars.
P.S. You know what would be cool. A "Shower" mortar system that rains down those crappy popper/snapper firecrackers. You know, the ones that look like little sperms and you toss em at people? That would be a fun and fairly safe effect.
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Post by littlecyclone on Feb 10, 2009 5:42:38 GMT -5
seems any projectile of sufficent weight to travel more than a hundred feet or so with a payload of whatever will be too heavy to safely fire off. I concur, to get anything with any kind of serious weight to any decent distance you're going to end up talking some heavy duty delivery system, which will lead us right back to propellants/flame/explosives/etc. Maybe for the limitations we're under, we should think something along the lines of a modified catapult or trebuchet. Something that would use resistance as its primary force as opposed to the aforementioned chemical reactions that are either 1)too weak for practical use or 2) too dangerous for field use.
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Feb 10, 2009 6:41:58 GMT -5
Why not just combine a potato gun and those new exploding airsoft grenades...
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Post by Relarz on Feb 10, 2009 7:06:14 GMT -5
Well, they'd burst in the air. I think the idea thing would be to just rain BB's on people, and inform them that if they feel/see any hit, they are out/incapacitated, and must find a medic/corpsman. It would make sense to me since in real life ricochets do count, but I don't think it would go over well to enforce ricochet rules at fields. Players would just camp and spam BB's around corners.
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Post by Phantom G3 on Feb 10, 2009 9:27:30 GMT -5
Well the explosive grenades would be hard to keep track of or too expensive after about 4 or 5 shots. Thanks for the link for that website, I want to try and make my own grenades now. I guess Shadow is right about the parachute, but you would have to use a spring loaded shower system in order for them to have enough momentum to make sure you can feel the hits. You will also be able to find the mortar round if it floats safely to the ground, so you can see where it's going.
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Post by littlecyclone on Feb 10, 2009 9:27:56 GMT -5
It would make sense to me since in real life ricochets do count, Shrapnel anyone?
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 10, 2009 10:11:03 GMT -5
I agree with the too heavy/ too light argument. That's why I'm looking for help here. There's got to be some way around it. As far as Milsimlabs.com, I bookmarked that last night when I was googling around. I think those impact grenades could be an answer. I also have an idea made of only a styrofoam tip, a plastic tube, a spring and plunger, and a small metal release inside the tube.. It would only weigh 10 ounces. I'll try making it and see if I can get sufficient energy to launch over 200 feet. one half mass times velocity squared or momentum, p=mv
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Post by Phantom G3 on Feb 10, 2009 10:23:27 GMT -5
I guess if you use foam mortar rounds that explode upon impact, people will just have to wear helmets.
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Post by Tex on Feb 10, 2009 10:23:58 GMT -5
Just stick with a PVC tube, a 203 shell (or a pneumatic spud gun) , and some nerf footballs. There is a blast kill radius, and if you use the whistling nerfs, people will hear them coming. Those can travel up to 100 yard, and even more. Stop worrying about bb's, people won't feel them. If you really want bb's, toss them in after the nerf ball, they actually do travel quite a distance.
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