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Post by Ike on Aug 23, 2011 13:42:36 GMT -5
It works for me, it's all the posts that Knief has made so far on Airsoft Society.
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Post by Flopper (Ozone) on Aug 23, 2011 13:50:50 GMT -5
It works for me, it's all the posts that Knief has made so far on Airsoft Society. Oh, well at first he made an account there just to back me up with the CM deal, then he said he was going to start giving these guys more advice . He seems to be hard at work.
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Post by M.S.-ARC on Aug 23, 2011 14:26:18 GMT -5
Damn. Knief you have got to have a lot of patience to deal with those n00bs over there. Who knows, you just might start a change.
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Post by Knief on Aug 23, 2011 14:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by fuzzywolly on Aug 23, 2011 15:19:45 GMT -5
Knief, I loved the one thread where someone was disagreeing with you and you threw out a few large, high quality info paragraphs at him, and he shut his trap. Just reading through those threads made my head hurt. Just so much BS. Another reason why just cause you can post, does not mean you should. Great job Knief! I for one do not have that much patience.
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Post by Flopper (Ozone) on Aug 23, 2011 16:56:22 GMT -5
I tried doing something similar to what Knief was doing (if I knew about the topic), that's why I joined it in the first place, and whenever I posted they seemed to have some dumb reason to disagree. So I just gave up on trying. Then Knief comes along and helps back up my posts on the CM, so now I post here and there but ehhh, nothing tops the great MiA. Edit: Had to add on this gem thread, www.airsoftsociety.com/forums/f9/good-starter-aps2-30263/#post294326 .
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Post by Apocalyte on Dec 20, 2011 1:41:40 GMT -5
I hope I'm not busting any major rules by posting in a thread that is multiple months old, but I feel as though I have something to add, even if it's nothing ground breaking. If this is indeed some sort of infraction, I apologize in advance.
Recently I've only just purchased by first AEG, which happens to be the CYMA/Cybergun M4 CQB-R, licensed by Colt Manufacturing.
Pertaining to opinions and perceptions about CYMA, I had heard both good and bad. The pros being they typically make somewhat decent starter guns and that they can be found for relatively cheap. The cons seem to be covered here quite adequately.
Now then, with that said I did quite a lot of 'research' on the specific gun I purchased, before I made the commitment. The majority of what I read/watched seemed to indicate that the gun was a break from the normal substandard weapons the company typically produced.
Equipped with this knowledge, after finding a spectacularly hard to beat deal, I made the plunge.
To be honest, I have no regrets in the matter. Though I have very little to compare the gun against in terms of my own experiences, the M4 CQB-R seems to be quite solid. Of course I do have my qualms and nit-picking issues with it, including a front triangle iron sight that is neigh impossible to remove and a slight wobble to the RAS rails (much more noticeable with a foregrip), but I expected I would have some problems with almost any purchase.
At any rate, and I know I'm rambling, I suppose I won't know for certain how well the gun operates until I can battle-test it. For now, though, I am quite happy with the purchase and certainly feel as though it can stand up well..
I would be very happy to discuss particulars about it, or compare it along side others. I especially look forward to seeing somebody out there at a game who would like to take a look at it, maybe get a feel for it.
Hopefully CYMA is turning there act around?
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Post by Knief on Dec 20, 2011 8:24:27 GMT -5
That right there is the kicker. We all fall in love with our first guns, unless of course that gun is a big steaming pile of shit right out if the box. But without any real basis of comparison, a lot of that love is based more on the visceral reaction of acquiring or owning that long awaited goal, and less so on its actual qualities. And even less so on its qualities relative to the rest of the market. There are a lot of guns that, on their own, aren't so bad. But for the same money, you could own something much better. Play some games, handle some other peoples' guns as much as they'll let you, and get a better feel for what's out there before deciding one way or the other. Because afterall...
Until you've spent some real time on the field with your gun and put it through your paces, you won't know much about it. Most of us consider 10,000 rounds a warm up for our AEGs. If you haven't put 50,000, 75,000 or even 100,000 rounds through it, you don't really know what kind of faults and problems it has.
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Post by americanpsycho on Dec 24, 2011 8:06:19 GMT -5
Airsoft Society banned me for the same shit and my sense of humor which was fine for a long time. I've been into airsoft since 1998 so I do have fair experiance.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Dec 24, 2011 8:59:42 GMT -5
I know this thread is supposed to be dead but this actually pertains to the thread. Alright I have had a CM and a few of my friends have too, I have also had a few CYMA Ak variants. I think people are hating on CYMA just to be on the bandwagon. I have had nothing but happiness with the cyma's I've had. Never had a single problem at all. The same can be said about all the CM's I've seen/used. The thing is both brands have their good niche's, I would never go to CYMA for a m4 variant and G&G wouldn't be my first choice for an AK variant. I feel as if people are dwelling in the past with some brands, I have heard that CYMA was COMPLETE trash a few years ago but that is the same with G&G just one of those 2 has had the luck of people forgetting about that. www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_206&products_id=3309 CYMA www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4587 G&G They are in the same price range and IMO will give the same performance. I noticed this and I think this is what scares a lot of veterans and attracts a lot of noobs to CYMA's and that's the fps. The fps on cyma's is pretty high but in no means is it going to break anything within the gun. That's just my 2 cents.
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Post by trey on Feb 16, 2012 16:22:40 GMT -5
I have owned a CYMA M14 Socom and a G&G Combat Machine and believe me when I say, the G&G is superior by far. I sold the CYMA to a friend i play with to get a Combat Machine and 1 month later, the M14 stopped working. I've had the CM for 9 months and it is still like new
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Post by njn551 on Mar 15, 2012 11:40:19 GMT -5
I am a mod over at AS, most of the people that have posted over in those thread probably don't know wtf they are talking about. AS has had loads of new members in the past year.
From what point of view do you guys think the G&G CMs are better? I have never owned the CYMA m4s. I have fixed about 10 CM m4s now.
From a techs point of view, the CMs aren't even close. CYMAs AK line blows the CM line out of the water. Better wiring, gears, motor, air-seal parts.
Even externals are better. Price is similar aswell. It seems like you guys over here are just CM fanboys. Yes they are cheap, they aren't to great either though. Only thing that would get me to buy a CM over a CYMA (that's not a LPEG), is better QC with the CMs, also the non-100% china everything.
I would love to do a stress test against the CYMA AK, say a CM036, a $140 gun after tuning, and the CM AK, they are $140 aswell, correct? After they have both had a basic tune-up (deans, shimmed, greased, AOE corrected).
The CYMA AK would win by a lot. Those CYMA AK gears can handle m140s when shimmed properly. Once you correct AOE on the piston, those won't break easy either.
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Post by Pagan on Mar 15, 2012 12:08:21 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was comparing the CM Aks to Cyma Aks.
Most if not all of the recommendations for the CM have been for the M4. For a no frills, basic and for the most part reliable M4, the CMs have been a great way to go.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Mar 15, 2012 12:12:03 GMT -5
The thing is you can't compare them, people are talking about a v2 GB vs. a V3 GB. Everyone knows certain brands specialize in different guns. I would never buy a dboys m4 but I would buy one of their ak's in a heartbeat.
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Post by njn551 on Mar 15, 2012 12:22:31 GMT -5
Yes, CYMA makes the best budget AKs IMO, JG makes the best m4 (from my view, I don't mind the externals, as long as my internals are nice).
Edit: budget m4, not best.
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