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Post by Guts and Glory on Jun 14, 2009 21:36:54 GMT -5
Drats, not me in them. I so wish a camera guy had been with me when I had my bang kill.
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Post by sunshine on Jun 14, 2009 21:41:18 GMT -5
Overall great game, intense fire fights, fun rec. games. Only problem I had was at the beggining of the day when green was trying to break into the city, but had no possible way to do so with out getting mowed by 4 guys at once. Overall awesome game. Also I have somethign you guys may like. s143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/yellowxl/SFOD%20June%2013th/PICTURES!!!! Sorry for any inconvience had Photobucket profile set to private. It should work now. |
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Post by Skoicha on Jun 14, 2009 21:42:53 GMT -5
The major problem with Mr. Moore getting shot was that it came within about an inch of his eye, not a good thing. I thought today went swimmingly, with the 300 games being the best. I should have a bunch of pictures up tomorrow.
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Post by Devil on Jun 14, 2009 21:44:21 GMT -5
Alright guy's, Father was out taking video and pictures. They will be up in Thor's post in the gallery soon.
GOOD PART: It's always a wonderful atmosphere at SFOD field. Fun times, Great people, great trigger time. You guy's have always had a well built field. I had fun showing off my pimped out KJW RUGER!
CONS:
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Whom ever you are, you know who I'm talking about. Green side, Your bragging about not paying in the chrono line. Your a disgrace, You and your buddy's came before and bragged about head shots?! NOT COOL! Then you brag about how you're not paying? WRONG, you did get talked to. I will hope you will give an apology for how you acted for the day and in the past on here. Don't make me post your picture man. Just say sorry, you ruin the event by your petty bull shit. I expect a full apology to SFOD especially for taking advantage of them not making sure everyone payed. I did tell on you, you should have got kicked out.
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Organization was fairly poor, But you guy's did a great job. IF you think it was more of a REC game. I mean a 300 game during an OP? I came to shoot woodland not play 300 games, I would jut wait for REC games for that.
3. People being just complete fucking idiots. I felt real bad for the guy who got shot with no goggles on during a safe zone. Your friend should be more careful, honestly talk to him.
The only other thing that really pissed me off SO MUCH was that kid in the first part, He's a complete fucking idiot. HE should be banned from SFOD.
All in all THANK YOU SFOD FOR A GREAT GAME!
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Post by redknight on Jun 14, 2009 21:46:41 GMT -5
Apparently things were different for the tan team... I thought things went pretty well. I admit that the green spawn point wasn't very good in the beginning, but the tan's was fine. I'm not sure how people were saying it was disorganized.... I thought it was pretty well organized. Again, the spawn points were an issue in the beginning, but gameplay was kept running pretty smooth. Maybe the objectives in the morning were a little biased as the tan team's objectives were all basically just to defend the city, d-day, and the "supply bunker". It basically seemed to turn into a big clusterfuck at the edge of the city, but oh well. After lunch the 300 games were pretty good, I always like those. Redknight, I feel insulted that you called me and TAM "pissy". Maybe I missed something, but I don't even remember seeing you there at all, so I don't know what you have against me. As for TAM and the bang kill, I don't think the bang kill rules were ever very well explained. If his gun wasn't working and he called a bang kill, well how do you know his gun wasn't working? I know he always carries a pistol along with his rifle with him, and I don't think both of his guns weren't working (the L85 and his pistol were working just fine from what I remember...), so he could've just pulled out his other gun and lit you up. So I would say he did you a favor with the bang kill. Although, I don't remember seeing this happen, so I can't comment for sure, but from what I understand I don't see the problem. About the whole shooting at the house and Mr. Moore, what was the problem you people had with that? At first I was a little disappointed with taking like 20 minutes out of the gameplay to stop, but if you think about it, would you want random people shooting at your house? Put yourself in his position- you've got a bunch of people you don't know over on your property playing airsoft in the back, away from the house. Now people are shooting at you (a "civilian") and your house (out of play), what do you do? Wouldn't you be pretty pissed? I know I would be. So I really don't see the problem with what SFOD did to fix that. Overall, I was pretty pleased. The D-Day game towards the end of the day was pretty lame because the green team wasn't moving very much towards D-day (even though they had unlimited respawns...) and because my battery died, but I thought the rest of the game was fun. Maybe not worth $20 for an Op because the first half was like an Op, but after lunch it was all just rec games, so I think a $15 price tag would've been more appropriate, but oh well. Its only $5, get over it. EDIT: Oh yeah, pictures! NAOW! [glow=red,2,300]Stray shots:[/glow] As a point of fact since tan was in the tree line at the beginning since green was forced to wait in the field from the start and since green was on the outside of the tree line shooting in, it was probably tan shooting towards the house. Either way I wouldn't want my house shot up either. [glow=red,2,300]Water:[/glow] Seriously, if you run a business you are expected to have certain amenities for your clients. I brought some water which I ended up sharing, but it was tacky to expect a guy to pay a dollar for water from a garden hose. If my buddy or (anyone else) had been more dehydrated and passed out there would have been a shit storm from it! They just squeezed 20 bucks out of each of us with the promise of a good game, water is the least they can provide.... For the record, the issue I had with the 20 minute break for changing spawns was not with the break itself, but for the fact that since the game was hopelessly unbalanced by allowing the defenders to respawn as they did and to dig in and start in the city, it made the unbalance even worse, it should have been addressed and fixed but was not. [glow=red,2,300]300 game[/glow]: the point of the 300 game is supposed to be a last stand holding out as long as possible without reinforcements, but that was messed up because tan had respawns so it just became a meat grinder for green to jump into. [glow=red,2,300]Bangkills:[/glow] The issue with the bang kill was that he tried to shoot first and had a gun malfuntion, but insisted on trying to call a bangkill. I responded by challenging him to fire. He could not( I knew this, it was obvious). If you run out of ammo or your gun jams you can not try to call kills with your rifle just because you have a weapon malfunction, thats what happens in some firefights, both real and simulated. If he really had intended to bang kill, he would not have tried to shoot first, face it man, he tried to be cool and his gun bit the bullet at a bad time causing you to both get shot.(it was pretty heroic how you rushed to save him though) If he had an L85, he should have had it in hand instead of his pistol, but hey, trying to be cool gets lots of folks owned. and I am no exception to that statement having been owned many many times for trying too hard.  Next time for instance if he just walks up and goes for a knife kill he probably will get it, or just aims in with his main weapon and calls a "bang" without actually firing.... He did sneak up fairly well since he came at me from the parkinglot/field area I wasn't expecting it  Since you didn't remember seeing me, it's all moot I guess, but I was in a ghillie suit with a black underarmor mask carrying the tanaka and the meu. I thought the situation was a bit pissy since it was clear as a bell that he just had bad luck and tried to cover it with calling a bang-kill. My understanding is that bang-kills can only be called if your weapon is functional, and of course loaded and are primarliy used in place of attempting to actually shoot a person mainly for purposes of mercy and or to avoid injury when safety is the issue. All of that goes out the window if you attempt to shoot someone since your intent was to fire (whether or not the gun cooperates is a different matter) Again, had he simply said bang I would have nodded and called myself out, but as it was he tried to fire I challenged his action because i heard his gun misfire (its happened to me too when I rushed a room or two) and knew he was unable to discharge a single shot, I then called a sniper kill with my tanaka which he refused so for safety I slung my tanaka (as one of you ran towards me) I drew my meu and killed you both. Don't worry though, your other team mate got me, ironically with his meu, from about 30 yds (damn good shot) right after I killed you two with mine. Gene coming along moments later singing "hooah" and calling us both out was totally moot to me at that point... what is that little guy's name that had the meu and the m14? I see him at spyops a lot and now I have seen him play, the kid's got some skills.  [glow=red,2,300]Hooooah!: [/glow]Has Gene ever been in the army, navy or marines? where the hell does he get that hooah crap? He sounded like he either has tourrettes syndrome or maybe he is some new kind of pokemon and thats just the noise he makes... sort of like Pika-pika-pika-pika-chu!  [glow=red,2,300]Misunderstandings:[/glow] Since we can't see each other's faces here, please understand and know that I like just about everyone I have met in airsoft and have no wish to hurt folks feelings. 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Post by ROR-DOG on Jun 14, 2009 21:48:24 GMT -5
Yo , and one on the COG team contact me please. I was thr guy with Embed's old ' M14
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Post by Guts and Glory on Jun 14, 2009 21:55:07 GMT -5
Overall great game, intense fire fights, fun rec. games. Only problem I had was at the beggining of the day when green was trying to break into the city, but had no possible way to do so with out getting mowed by 4 guys at once. Overall awesome game. Also I have somethign you guys may like. s143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/yellowxl/SFOD%20June%2013th/PICTURES!!!! Sorry for any inconvience had Photobucket profile set to private. It should work now. Must go edit my report, Danke. |
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Post by Devil on Jun 14, 2009 21:58:03 GMT -5
RedKnight, Please stop with the bashing of Gene. He try's to make the game more exciting. The other stuff you said I agree on. The stuff about Gene, just leave it be. Other than that, Thanks SFOD for a great game. Now how about an elevator for that damn hill! |
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Post by infidel (Immortal Detroit) on Jun 14, 2009 22:12:35 GMT -5
Kiki and redknight: I agree with redknights disregard for the bang kill. In my understanding, bang kills can be disregarded as long as the person who was given the opportunity to call out is ready for a world of hurt at close range. If he thought the other guy's gun wasn't working and decided to disregard the bang kill, he's taking his own chance that he won't get shot up royally...I have nothing else to say So, (and I'm not taking sides or anything, just stating my opinion on the conflict) he has a right to kinda be pissed that the hellfish guy got "pissy" because of it. Although I don't feel it was necessary of him to post much of the same negativity in two replies to this thread. The second post was mostly a waste to read because I knew all the stuff redknight was complaining about. Also the post about the 3:1 to overtake a well fortified position is irrelevant to the games today. My understanding in the 300 games was that we the defenders were to lose everytime, it was just a matter of how long we can hold for. I believe we had 0-1 respawns and attackers had unlimited. That's more than a 3-1 ratio in my calculations. As for me, I really enjoyed being out there today. It was my first time to the SFOD field, and I'd like to thank Mr. Moore on everyone's behalf for letting us out there, it's definitely great. I didn't hear much of any blind firing, or hit calling complaints. (A few, but not nearly as many as I've heard elsewhere before) and everyone seemed pretty friendly about things. The game may have been a little unorganized, and slightly slow to start but you still gotta give Mayhem and the other guys running things credit......even with the "HOOORAH!" I know for sure I'll be attempting to make it out to other events up that way, and hopefully furture ones will be just as good and even better! Thanks for the day of playing, it's been far too long since I've been able to get out to an event, and this (despite the minor problems) was a good way to get things started again. |
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Post by Guts and Glory on Jun 14, 2009 22:15:27 GMT -5
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Post by theactionman on Jun 14, 2009 22:17:08 GMT -5
Crazy, honestly other things disappointed me as well. Things such as the two hellfish that got pissy because one tried to back shoot me and his gun malfuntioned so he tried to call a bang kill with a broken gun and I shot him and his friend. (you have to call a bang kill instead of attempting to shoot, and when i challenged him to shoot he was unable to sho he got smoked) I'm pretty sure that never happened, or at least I don't remember it. All of my assault weapons are arms length engagement so I never bang kill, ever. I also never saw you all day... *edit* After reading your further description of the incident, I know for a fact that It wasn't me. Please confirm all parties involved next time you make defaming statements. *edit* |
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Post by broken-RS- on Jun 14, 2009 22:26:21 GMT -5
As a first time player, I had a great time overall. It seemed a little unorganized at times, but with 80 or so people I think that's to be expected. I can understand green's arguments with the spawns, but from the tan side it went well.
Thanks again to SFOD and Mr. Moore for a great field.
kustom and FAH, thanks for letting me follow you guys around. Had a great time "sneaking" in the swamp during 300, mostly watching water fill our boots while BBs flew past our heads.
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Post by Guts and Glory on Jun 14, 2009 22:29:55 GMT -5
What I want to know at least is the names of the attackers I caught off guard while defending in the "300" game.
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Post by Connors on Jun 14, 2009 22:51:29 GMT -5
The event was the most disorganized I have ever seen in more than 16 years of paintball, military and airsoft experience... The final straw was when my friend asked if he could have some water which he was told was available from a garden hose and the man who owns the place actually wanted him to pay a dollar for water from a garden hose......on top of the $20 admission fee. If you LISTENED, you would know that that was for abottle of water from the cooler in the Gazebo. Other peopel were using the hose ALL DAY. The guy running the event took almost 20 minutes to rant and rave about someone shooting towards the house. Mr. Moore, the OWNER if the land you played on got blasted in the face, just below the eye. Maybe you can show a little more respect. [glow=red,2,300]Stray shots:[/glow]Either way I wouldn't want my house shot up either. Exactly the point of the 20 minute discussion otehr than Mr Moor getting shot in the eye. have some asian guy singing "hoooahhh" and chanting "you're a ranger, you can kill anyone! you can do it guys!".... That asian guy has a name, Gene. It's a scenario based game for fun, do you really think it's serious..? I can appreciate the fact that SFOD apparently wanted some target practice, but they should have used beer and pop cans instead of having paying players rush their little tree forts in a futile effort while they hung back lounging in their fortified positions.... home turf....come on...be gracious hosts and give the visitors half a chance... Maybe you missed the part that we were ALL REFFING ALL DAY. Those guys in the blue hats, yeha that was ALL of SFOD wearing blue hats to signify ref. And it WAS Discussed in breifing, if you payed attention. NONE of use even came close to playing anything till around 5-6ish. There were a LOT of experienced player who have been to our field MANY times on tan. Did you ever think that maybe they simply knew how to play the field and have you outthunk?? Mainly I am irked because this was my brother's first and possibly last field game. He was disappointed with the lack of organization and the lack luster performance by the host in areas of creativity and competent planning. The guy spent 20 minutes changing spawn points because a BB hit the owner, but couldn't un-screw the scenario which was miserably unbalanced because he apparently wasn't interested since he already had the money in his pocket Do I really need to even acknoledge the fact that you missed the seriousness of how bad this is in terms of safety. THE OWNER got hit almost in the eye. Yes, it is a seriosu matter and was dealt with acordingly. If you don't care about the safety of others, then this is not the game for you. [glow=red,2,300]Water:[/glow] Seriously, if you run a business you are expected to have certain amenities for your clients. I brought some water which I ended up sharing, but it was tacky to expect a guy to pay a dollar for water from a garden hose. If my buddy or (anyone else) had been more dehydrated and passed out there would have been a shit storm from it! They just squeezed 20 bucks out of each of us with the promise of a good game, water is the least they can provide.... For the record, the issue I had with the 20 minute break for changing spawns was not with the break itself, but for the fact that since the game was hopelessly unbalanced by allowing the defenders to respawn as they did and to dig in and start in the city, it made the unbalance even worse, it should have been addressed and fixed but was not. [glow=red,2,300]Bangkills:[/glow] The issue with the bang kill was that he tried to shoot first and had a gun malfuntion, but insisted on trying to call a bangkill. I responded by challenging him to fire. He could not( I knew this, it was obvious). If you run out of ammo or your gun jams you can not try to call kills with your rifle just because you have a weapon malfunction, thats what happens in some firefights, both real and simulated. If he really had intended to bang kill, he would not have tried to shoot first, face it man, he tried to be cool and his gun bit the bullet at a bad time causing you to both get shot.(it was pretty heroic how you rushed to save him though) If he had an L85, he should have had it in hand instead of his pistol, but hey, trying to be cool gets lots of folks owned. and I am no exception to that statement having been owned many many times for trying too hard. Next time for instance if he just walks up and goes for a knife kill he probably will get it, or just aims in with his main weapon and calls a "bang" without actually firing.... He did sneak up fairly well since he came at me from the parkinglot/field area I wasn't expecting it Since you didn't remember seeing me, it's all moot I guess, but I was in a ghillie suit with a black underarmor mask carrying the tanaka and the meu. I thought the situation was a bit pissy since it was clear as a bell that he just had bad luck and tried to cover it with calling a bang-kill. My understanding is that bang-kills can only be called if your weapon is functional, and of course loaded and are primarliy used in place of attempting to actually shoot a person mainly for purposes of mercy and or to avoid injury when safety is the issue. All of that goes out the window if you attempt to shoot someone since your intent was to fire (whether or not the gun cooperates is a different matter) Again, had he simply said bang I would have nodded and called myself out, but as it was he tried to fire I challenged his action because i heard his gun misfire (its happened to me too when I rushed a room or two) and knew he was unable to discharge a single shot, I then called a sniper kill with my tanaka which he refused so for safety I slung my tanaka (as one of you ran towards me) I drew my meu and killed you both. Don't worry though, your other team mate got me, ironically with his meu, from about 30 yds (damn good shot) right after I killed you two with mine. Gene coming along moments later singing "hooah" and calling us both out was totally moot to me at that point... what is that little guy's name that had the meu and the m14? I see him at spyops a lot and now I have seen him play, the kid's got some skills. [glow=red,2,300]Hooooah!: [/glow]Has Gene ever been in the army, navy or marines? where the hell does he get that hooah crap? He sounded like he either has tourrettes syndrome or maybe he is some new kind of pokemon and thats just the noise he makes... sort of like Pika-pika-pika-pika-chu! Bang Kill-He had the jump on you. He has no need to justfy that his gun would not fire. he called you out instead of what could have been lighting you up. Take the kill, go respawn and get over it. It's just a game. Water-Again, the hose was free. The pay was for a BOTTLE OF WATER for the cooler in the gazebo. 20 minute break-Again, MR Moore got hit in the FACE ALMOST IN THE EYE. How hard is that to understand?.. Hooah- It's a game, Just go along with it and have fun. And Hooah is from the Army, BTW. Redknight, you seem to be the only one to have soo many bones to pick with us. We have had MANY SUCCESSFULL op's and rec games, and many peopel cna vouch for that, even soem of those who may have not had the best day today. I have nothng more to say to you but this-If you don't like our games just ibecause you had ONE shitty run with us, just don't come back. It's that simple. Now, I'll say my peice about the day... Yes, it as very unorganized and the game could have been a bit more in depth to last longer for the origonal scenario we started with. And part of this was due to a team communication proble, and we're all somewhat at fault. Every event host ha there bad days. I do agree that this should have just been a simple rec game, but it's not my call. We had a team meeting tonight after everyone left. Things were discussed. Probeldm were picked apart, and we got on Grey Fox's case about not getting me scenario details in time. Green was severely outplayed. Mainly because the green side lacked heavily in experience, and that is not SFOD's fault(redknight). Today seemed more like a rec game than an OP but hey, we all learn from our mistakes. I'm tired as hell right now, so I'm going to bed, and I'll probably have more to say once more people respond on their thoughts for the day. |
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Post by ROR-DOG on Jun 14, 2009 22:58:28 GMT -5
Speaking for the devil. Redknight, i was the one who ended the problem with my MEU, anywho, PM incoming about the M14 mags.
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Next time for instance if he just walks up and goes for a knife kill he probably will get it, or just aims in with his main weapon and calls a "bang" without actually firing.... He did sneak up fairly well since he came at me from the parkinglot/field area I wasn't expecting it 
Since you didn't remember seeing me, it's all moot I guess, but I was in a ghillie suit with a black underarmor mask carrying the tanaka and the meu. I thought the situation was a bit pissy since it was clear as a bell that he just had bad luck and tried to cover it with calling a bang-kill. My understanding is that bang-kills can only be called if your weapon is functional, and of course loaded and are primarliy used in place of attempting to actually shoot a person mainly for purposes of mercy and or to avoid injury when safety is the issue. All of that goes out the window if you attempt to shoot someone since your intent was to fire (whether or not the gun cooperates is a different matter) Again, had he simply said bang I would have nodded and called myself out, but as it was he tried to fire I challenged his action because i heard his gun misfire (its happened to me too when I rushed a room or two) and knew he was unable to discharge a single shot, I then called a sniper kill with my tanaka which he refused so for safety I slung my tanaka (as one of you ran towards me) I drew my meu and killed you both. Don't worry though, your other team mate got me, ironically with his meu, from about 30 yds (damn good shot) right after I killed you two with mine. Gene coming along moments later singing "hooah" and calling us both out was totally moot to me at that point... what is that little guy's name that had the meu and the m14? I see him at spyops a lot and now I have seen him play, the kid's got some skills. 
