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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 15:57:52 GMT -5
Hello all, very new to the forum; however, I am very excited to get some other perspectives. I really would like to internally upgrade my jg g36. My long term goals are:
450 fps increased accuracy increased range
If I could please get some suggestions on what to do and replace. I am very very confused as to what is what exactly. I thank you in advance for the help. Some examples of your guy's guns would be awesome!!
Thanks,
g36 (Tyler)
p.s Go easy on me please.
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Mar 12, 2012 16:10:21 GMT -5
Why would you want 450fps? Fps=/= effectiveness, or what most newer players consider "a good gun." Plus, you would be restricted to Semi Automatic only at MiA sanctioned events. Now, the best thing you can do for your JG would: 1) Give it a nice shim job, re-grease all the gears and silicone the air seals for better compression. Doing this will increase reliability, consistancy, and improving the air seals should give you a little boost in accuracy and range. If you want to upgrade or maintain the airseals, the basic parts include the Air Nozzle, Cylinder head, Piston, Piston Head, and Cylinder. 2) Use high quality bb's. 3) Buy a good battery; this is the best thing you can do for any AEG. 4) If you want to immediately tune your accuracy, invest in a Tight Bore Barrel. In the short run, just give your stock JG gearbox a nice tune-up (its good to do it anyway), or find someone who is willing to do it for you. JG's line of G36's have been known to be pretty reliable as it is. But also realize that there is no single "all-in-one miracle" part that will make your replica shoot god-like. It takes time, resources, money, and a bit of skill to make your gun shoot shoot marginally farther and more accurate. Hope this helped in the slightest.
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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 16:16:02 GMT -5
I guess you're right. I have no idea what I really wanted. Most people i guess associate raw power with a better experience, including myself. It's good to learn new things everyday. Thanks for your help. Do these parts cost a lot?
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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 16:17:30 GMT -5
Uhm...what just happened there?? Why did that large monster attack my post?!?
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Mar 12, 2012 16:19:15 GMT -5
I guess you're right. I have no idea what I really wanted. Most people i guess associate raw power with a better experience, including myself. It's good to learn new things everyday. Thanks for your help. Do these parts cost a lot? It depends on what manufacturer, size/length/type of part, material, and a whole host of other factors... Comparitively, some parts are pricey, others are not as much, but hey, airsoft will really stretch your wallet. You can expect to pay anywhere from $30-$100 for a good Tight Bore Barrel, for example. You can expect to pay anywhere from $10-$40 for a good Cylinder head.. Get my drift? It depends on who makes it, who sells it, etc... My advice, if your interested in something, do your own browsing and research on specific products and see what deals you can snatch. And that monster... He's an 'a lot'.
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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 16:30:41 GMT -5
Thank you so much! I am looking at the stuff you suggested. I think I can do the replacements myself...I think. Have you, yourself, done tune up on your gun?
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Post by Italian on Mar 12, 2012 16:43:32 GMT -5
Tight Bore barrels are for increasing FPS, not accuracy or range.
Get a 6.08 if you want accuracy and range, then either really do some research and install and R-Hop, or get someone to do it for you, like Ike (Poet and I don't knows it).
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Post by BoredKender on Mar 12, 2012 17:10:58 GMT -5
Italian, there are so many things wrong with that statement that I don't know where to start. A GOOD 6.03/6.04 will give you much tighter groupings (meaning better accuracy) than a 6.08 of the same quality at the same distance and probably farther.
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Post by Knief on Mar 12, 2012 17:12:55 GMT -5
Correction, super tight bores and mediocre tight bores are for increasing FPS. A high quality 6.0/4 barrel will tighten your groupings compared to most stock barrels (including most stock tightbores, like G&Gs). Assuming you go 6.03/4 bore or greater, quality (in conjunction with your hop up, of course) matters a hell of a lot more than bore size for bringing your groupings in.
[edit] The 'a lot' comes out when you misspell "a lot." Notice the space between "a" and "lot." 'a lot' is not a word.
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Post by Blitz on Mar 12, 2012 17:19:29 GMT -5
To clear up some misinformation about barrels, a wider bore doesn't equal better accuracy/range, but neither does a super tight barrel. The single most important feature of a barrel is quality and smoothness of a barrel. Since there really is no major brand that produces a 6.08 barrel as Italian has suggested, try to find a 6.03 by a quality brand like Prometheus or Systema. Madbulls are also great if you're on a budget. I can also personally attest to a1's advice on a good reshim and greasing for your gearbox. My first AEG was also a JG G36k, and I ignored this advice at first. Two months later and my gearbox looked like it had gone through a blender, costing over $100 in repairs. As for the monster, it appears when you misspell "a lot".
...And Knief beats me to it.
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g36
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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 17:21:03 GMT -5
Okay so I was talking with Maverick (He's a nice guy) and he helped me out a bit. I have established this list: Shimming, re-grease with silicon, air nozzle, cylinder, cylinder head, piston, piston head, and 6.03 mm tight bore barrel. This might be all I can afford right now. How does this all look? Does anyone know of any deals that I can get on these items?
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Post by Blitz on Mar 12, 2012 17:30:26 GMT -5
I doubt you're going to need a new cylinder, unless it's cracked or dented or something. You might also not need a new cylinder head, just make sure you get some better O-rings for that and your piston.
Also, I don't know if JG changed their spring guides since I bought mine, but one with ball bearings is much better for your AEG. It isn't super important, especially if you get a piston head with ball bearings, but if you find room in your budget you should go for it.
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Post by BoredKender on Mar 12, 2012 17:30:42 GMT -5
There is no reason you should really NEED a new air nozzle or cylinder at this point. I can almost understand the air nozzle for a good seal, but the cylinder would be a waste of cash honestly.
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Post by g36 on Mar 12, 2012 17:35:07 GMT -5
Okay that sounds good! I am excited to get started!!
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Mar 12, 2012 17:43:22 GMT -5
My first replica was a JG M733, and the stock air nozzle cracked merely weeks after recieving it, so I got a Deepfire metal air nozzle with the O-ring, and immediately noticed a much tighter air seal and increase in accuracy. But, that was just my experience.
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