It may be clone, but Echo's products are getting to be more than noob guns. The ASR, has a lot of decent upgrades available( left hand bolt, power upgrade to 480fps, an actual bearing spring guide, and madbull makes a replacement barrel 6.01mm). Not trying to push Echo1's products, but they are offering a lot more than what Well and UTG are putting out.
A freind and I have plinked with a JG bar-10 before, and hitting 200 ft of range using .2's fully stock. If you use higher gram bb's, with stock, you could expect <200 ft of effective range. It's a clone, so It would be a good idea to invest in upgrades to make an "affective" sniper rifle. Or purchase a more higher-end sniper rifle like a tanaka, or Marui. The JG bar is the only clone sniper rifle I would consider buying, it being at the start of my "worth buying" spectrum.
I don't know what Ghost "I have nothing else to say'd" about.
My UTG M324 got me accused of cheating when I popped Livonia with it, after I dropped in the upgrade kit and a 500+ spring from Evike. It hit way harder and way farther than some folks expected, well past 200 feet and shooting at 505 fps when it was chronoed. The spring settles on one of the guns I owned and the trigger broke on the other... laylax parts were the only available replacement/upgrade but required quite a bit of machining to get them to fit properly. I found that I had to crank the hopup almost ot full to throw the .4s accurately but it hit further. I have since replaced the hopup bucking once due to wear. If I had it to do all over again I may or may not have bought the rifle seeing how much I had to put into it to make it work. The trigger can hold a 500 spring, but it could also break just as well. My first m324 still works great barring the hopup bucking I have to replace, the other required lots of work to repair the trigger sear.
No spring rifles trigger will hold up for more than a year at 500fps. Maruzen's plastic trigger housings break and VSR's trigger sear breaks. Classic Army's M24's trigger mount screws strip. No rifle is perfect.
Redknight, You're very fortunate you shot me in the chest. Its 505fps, using .40's, and you hit me across a short river. Bolt actions aren't allowed on the island any longer because its too dangerous, which is where you shot me from. I would never have taken a shot like that, or use anything heavier than a .36 especially at such short range.
I'm very surprised you brought up this incident, and took a bunch of anger out on kids, it's not your first time doing that either. You shot me from barely legal limit, with heavier than normal BB's. You know that will hurt someone, and to me is irresponsible. I thought you would know better than a kid, especially being a police officer. I have owned bolt actions for six years now, I know what it feels to be shot by them, no reason to unleash because of an accusation.
Last Edit: Jun 10, 2010 23:31:29 GMT -5 by Livonia
I aim I squeeze, Pause for a moment a passing breeze. My finger steady, my trigger cold, I feel the recoil and watch him fold.
Alright guys, no need to get personal here. Redknight, there's no reason to involve Livonia at this point. If you had simply said that your rifle had gotten you accused of cheating once (without pointing any fingers), that would be fine. But there's no reason to implicate that Livonia did anything wrong (because he didn't).