Operation: Red Out - March 5th '06

[MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k)]

If you have an RPK, then your fine, if it looks like it. And who are the 2 SAW users? (only person I can think of would be Jacko.)

[Livonia]

"If you have an RPK, then your fine, if it looks like it. And who are the 2 SAW users? (only person I can think of would be Jacko.) " -DAMO and KING-

this new ammo limit is seriously a stupid idea in my eyes, and its not even about me. shanksta just bought a 140$ drum, mag and he cant even use it... MEU and DF combined have 5 Saw's and RA has nothing at all. lets see here, in MEU alone, we will be carrying 8160 rounds minimum.

shankstas AK in my eyes is classified as a support weapon, drum mag, and bipod. he might even get that RPK barrel for it by then... im not sure why you guys dont think a drum is a "support" weapon, but if youve got an ak and a 75-100 round drum mag, spray and pray is what its about... in my eyes, covoring fire. isnt that what SAW's are for, or are they for unnessasary spraying?

oh and knief, im not trying to sound like an asshole to you or anything like that but, when did you become the leader of the game toothbrush made. Everyone cant afford this Realsim stuff. And its a public game, now its posted about it on MIA, so why have this many requierments for just a fun public game of airsoft?

This game is going to last over an hour, and some people go through a lot of ammo, expecially people who are going in on the frontline (20+ vs 20+)... and i know filed bumming bb's off a buddy is tough shit.

why ammo requierments? i just wanna have fun, and see my buddys having fun. just because you guys dont like shanksta doesnt mean hes dumb in real life (because he certianly is not) honestly, i know all of you hate him, but he is still a member and someone to shoot at. im sure everyone here wouldnt mind if we didnt have ammo requierments... so, why begin now and ruin the fun for a lot of people

GIVE ME FEEDBACK

[Toothbrush]

livoniairsoft said:

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or and knief, im not trying to sound like an asshole to you or anything like that but, when did you become the leader of the game toothbrush made.

Just for the record, I am only the storyline creator. This is really El's OP. Damo and I are here to help hammer out the details. El and I discussed the issue and we both agreed upon having an ammo limit. I brought up the definition of support weapons and paraphrasing El, "It needs to look like a actual support weapon". We are trying to minimize the amount of "spray and pray/hosing".

Yes, the MEU team will probably have a good number of support guns but the MEU team also has about 10% of the total players that have signed up thus far. I have no problem with them having force multipliers, IE support weapons. They will probably need it when the shit hits the fan.

If shankstas could get some pics to damo, el and myself, we could give him an honest verdict on his gun.

The main reasons for the ammo reqs are 1) to minimize hosing and 2) force teams/squads to consider ammo in their confrontations with the OpFor. We want people to be forced into a retreat from a firefight due to low ammo. It should, at least in theory, make for a much more tactical game.

We are not going for "Nazi Milsim" (El), but we are trying add some Milsim elements that we feel will improve the game in multiple ways. We want people to have fun, and currently we feel this is one of those ways.

[Damo/DK]

Since when did we say Shanksta couldn't use his drum?


We just want to take a look at it. We don't want it to be a deal where some kid comes up and says "I can put a drum mag on my MP5K because you let that other kid put it on his AK."

[Knief]

Livonia, I haven't done anything to become leader. I was asked at the beginning of this if I wanted to help run it, and I don't. I am, however, keeping myself up to date on what the current rules are (so I can clarify to anybody who doesn't understand), as well as making suggestions that I think will help make the game more fun and more interesting. Damo, Toothbrush, and El don't have to take my advice, but they most certainly can if they like it.

The rest of my response I'm going to PM you, but this part needed to be handled in public. I don't have any kind of leadership role in this, other than protecting my Ambassador.

[Livonia]

alright, he is still waiting for his drum to arrive. but if you can imagine an AK with a bipod and a RPK drum mag... that is it. I'm thinking I'm going to make him an RPk stock to make it look a little better.

sorry for sounding like an ass to all you guys, but I'm just trying to be a good Friend and make sure no one gets left out. my apologies.

[deelux]

So wait? there is gonna be 5 SAWS on like the MEU and DF forces and NOTHING on REBEL SIDE? Way to stack the game.

[Damo/DK]

Who said anything about 5 SAWs? As of now I only know of two people with SAWs (And only one of them coming for sure). You also forget the MEU's job is not to engage the RA but to extract their ambassador.

[King]

You may not put much stock in this coming from one of the people who are going to have a SAW but, the gun doesn't make the player guys.

[deelux]

maybe.. but ammo caps are still stupid

[Zorak]

In my experience, not having ammo limits is even worse. Even without box mags, free use of hicap mags turns every weapon into a BB hose. Personally I favor a total ban on hi-caps and box mags except on proper support weapon replicas, by which I mean replicas of real steel weapons that use belt feed and which have quick-change barrels or other means of coping with the stress of massive volumes of fire. I'd rather see a total ban on support weapons than no mag limits at all, and I say that as a SAW owner.

[uberhampster]

Having a ban on high-caps is an awful idea, except for maybe hardcore milism. I don't have enough money to buy 10 low-caps or whatever, and I'm sure many people don't either.

[Damo/DK]

Lowcaps are cheaper than Hi-Caps , They also make you choose your shots.

[Damo/DK]

Sorry for Double Post, but for those who don't want to Register on SEMIA. Send an Email, to: [e-mail] Put your name, desired team, also Add what weapon you plan on using.

[Snip]

Im in since its only 5 minutes from my house