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Post by frayindacloudz on Aug 13, 2011 23:09:37 GMT -5
So this is my first decently good gun I invested in, and I had some questions.
1. Anyone here have this gun for a lil while? What can you tell me about your experience with it?
2. How is the company (I think cybergun) i didn't see anything about them on the forums so I'm assuming not so good...
3. FPS with .20s is marked at 384, how is that going to affect me when it comes to playing games where the fps is capped at 350?
4. What are some upgrades I should start investing into?
So far from use i am liking it, haven't had any problems and almost everyone i played with recently have ran into problems with there guns so that is a plus for me.
Thanks,
Fray
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Post by Javelin on Aug 13, 2011 23:45:20 GMT -5
As far as I know, those are manufactured by CYMA, which tends to be on the lower end of reputable airsoft companies, but a good clone company for beginners. As far as your FPS concerns, 384 is too hot for most CQB fields which tend to regulate at 350 FPS maximum. If you want to play more CQB than field, I would advise downgrading the spring before anything, that way you can decrease your FPS to regulation.
I'm not too sure what other upgrades you might want to start heavily getting into with a gun made by CYMA, but I do recommend a 6.01mm tight bore barrel for better accuracy on the field, check out the ones Madbull or DBC. Other things would be things like full metal bushings, shims, etc. I do not know a lot but I do know some tricks of the trade, so hopefully that can some what help. I'm sure you will enjoy the gun if you treat it right.
Good luck!
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Post by frayindacloudz on Aug 14, 2011 9:50:47 GMT -5
Yeah that makes sense, at most i will prob only buy some external upgrades, like a red dot. I might actually sell my ak to one of my friends who is in need of a gun and use the money to buy a more reputable gun that i can be keeping for a while. Like JG or something.
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Post by Javelin on Aug 14, 2011 10:27:42 GMT -5
I would steer clear of JG, they are just another clone company, not really any better than CYMA. The only upside to them is that they usually put a full metal gearbox in there guns. The companies I would recommend to check out for beginning would be someone like Echo 1 or D-boy. They tend to have good externals/internals and are usually low cost for just starting out.
If you want to go to the higher end and get a gun that will last a bit more, check out manufacturers such as G&G, KWA, ICS, A&K, and VFC. You can also look into the Classic Army Sportline series. The internals are not that great, but it is a good, affordable gun. All these guns can run from upper $100's to upper $400's, so it is up to you and your budget to pick the one that is right for you. They are all also fully upgradable.
The MiA forum has a lot of detail on all the manufacturers I listed above, and even more. I high suggest looking through the forum and researching for yourself on these companies. You can also get retailer reviews too. Hope any of this helps.
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Post by theitalynstalyn on Aug 14, 2011 11:07:01 GMT -5
So it looks like no one has said it yet, so here's a link to the gun many of the members here like to suggest as a first gun. The G&G Combat Machine www.airsplat.com/Items/ER-GG-CM-M16-CA.htmIt's a solid starter gun with great internals and a pretty good plastic body, all for $140. |
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Post by Javelin on Aug 14, 2011 11:19:21 GMT -5
Yeah the G&G CM is a good gun to start out on. G&G is famous for their nylon fiber bodies which are extremely durable, mix that with full metal internals you can't go wrong.
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Post by frayindacloudz on Aug 14, 2011 12:10:47 GMT -5
Funny you guys say that, After saying i was going to get JG I looked up some more info on all the brands here on the forums and decided if i were to get anything G&G Is the way I'm going. I wasn't to sure if CM was what i should get i was debating between G&G M4 GR15, GR16, and the CM m4.
The gr15 and 16 of course are going to cost me more, and i am also seeing the G&G Guns do not ship out with battery and charger, but i have my charger from my AK so i guess i only need to buy a battery. But it looks like all three guns would be good for CQB games. But as i do not feel like investing into a new gun (unless I can sell mine) what do you guys think about the tm velocity reducer to lower my fps a lil bit so i can play CQB, does it actually work good?
edit: Did some more research apparently they suck I have nothing else to say, and my best bet is replacing the spring, which is what i might do for the time being since i really do not need two guns.
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Post by Javelin on Aug 14, 2011 14:39:33 GMT -5
After all that it seems to me like your best bet would be to get a new spring to lower the velocity. Just make sure you know what you are doing before you open the gun up, you don't want to ruin a perfectly good gun because of one mistake. To be honest I would just sell it and go with the G&G, it would be a simple solution and a much better running gun.
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Aug 14, 2011 16:56:21 GMT -5
Guys, the newer CYMA AK's are really, really, nice. Don't be scared away because it has the CYMA label. Some guy at farmington cqb had an AK74, and it I thought it was a CA or VFC. Absolutely beautiful. It performed just like it looked. Don't be so quick to jump on the G&G bandwagon, though I do own one and the quality is just too good for the price, because honestly anything but an M4 is a breath of fresh air.
Get what you want. Ask around some more for some info on CYMA or G&G. G&G makes great AK's as well, similar in price to their Combat Machines.
Someone should really do an in-depth review on the CYMA, because I think they are starting to become underrated.
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Post by Ghast on Aug 14, 2011 18:43:20 GMT -5
No, no they aren't. CA and VFC have just completely lost their touch. CYMA is still bad.
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Post by Javelin on Aug 14, 2011 19:15:09 GMT -5
I agree with Ghast, CYMA is still a low quality manufacturer. Just remember just because a gun is made with real wood and metal doesn't mean it is good wood and good metal. A strong nylon fiber will put most pot metal to shame. Don't go with CYMA if you want a higher quality AEG.
There is no band wagon with G&G, they just happen to make very dependable, high quality rifles, for a very good price range. There are other companies to go with, but G&G will give you a great platform at an even greater price. All in all, just stay clear of the clone companies, because they all lead to three things: break downs, repairs, and upgrades. Just do your homework and go off of your own preferences, and I'm sure you will find a gun you will enjoy.
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Post by frayindacloudz on Aug 15, 2011 9:55:41 GMT -5
Yeah i don't know too much when it comes to airsoft but it seems like my ak tears up pretty nice for what its worth. If i can sell it i will, if not i might as well change the spring, i am very mechanically efficient (I fix shit for a living computer/hardware related) so changing the spring wouldn't be hard, but i couldn't find a spring for my gun, not too sure what spring i would want to get.
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Post by Javelin on Aug 15, 2011 10:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Aug 15, 2011 11:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by Brotato on Aug 15, 2011 12:30:05 GMT -5
If you do however decide to buy the G&G CM then buy it off of airsoftgi as they are much more reputable than airsplat.
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