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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 9, 2004 11:54:36 GMT -5
I was just courious? I bought mine and never asked.
My Q's. R as fallows:
Whats the stock FPS? (ok got that-280,now is that with .25 gram bb's?)
Whats the actual motor size?, (it says eg 700 AND eg 1000 on the butt of the handle). (I got that its a EG1000 is that a version 1 2 3?.)
What will removing the fuse do? (I want more range will that help, or at least why do people do it?)
Will I be able to use other mags than the TM's? (I defanintly want high cap mags, 68 rounds just goes to fast... But will others work as well as TM.)
Can I just buy a bigger battery and rewire it so the wires stick out the back and go into a bag and avoid any damage to the internals? For instance I can get some 3000 mah batterys for cheep but if I would ruin my gun there isnt much point right? I mean with out tweeking the gears or any thing. Im sure Ill have more Q's. as the day wears on, Ill just edit this post.
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Also how long do I charge the stock size battery for 8.4.
Whats a quick inexspencive way to get it up from 280 fps to 300 or better? Because I dont feel it has the distance. Cource Ive been shooting 0.20 gram bb's and its cold as hell but I want reach. And I defanintly want to keep it at a respectable FPS so I can use it in games where 350 is the limit like most of the games Ive read about so far.
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Post by HnD on Feb 9, 2004 12:00:35 GMT -5
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Post by Knief on Feb 9, 2004 15:08:53 GMT -5
1) The stock velocity on all TM AEGs is somewhere between 265 and 290.
2) The M4 uses an eg 1000
3) Removing the fuse plate will allow for a larger battery to fit in. You really don't need to remove the actual fuse, just tuck it up and out of the way. Removing the fuse can be dangerous. If your motor locks up because the gears bind, theoretically, your fuse will blow and no damage is done. With no fuse, the motor keeps turning and stuff starts to strip. With higher voltage batteries, you may find yourself blowing fuses just from the extra voltage. You can buy a heavier fuse and get rid of the problem
4) Yes, you can use TM, G&P, CA, ICS, and probably a couple more whose names escape me. Some of them are known to have feeding issues, most notably older CA mags, and ICS mp5 mags (which doesn't directly pertain to you, but it's a warning about the possible problems of their new M16 mags).
5) Yes, you can wire the gun so you can attatch a battery in the rear. I know a few people on this forum have done it, though I can't remember who (I want to say HotelSix, but i could very easily be wrong). Somebody will come by with instructions. Adding more mAh won't harm your gun at all. mAh is simply a measure of how long the battery will last. Using a battery with more voltage can be harmful. Stick to 8.4v unless you upgrade past 350 fps.
6) How long you charge your stock battery depends on your charger and what you call stock. A good rule of thumb is to charge it until it gets warm. When it starts getting warm, you can bet that it's full enough.
7) You won't notice ANY difference between 280 and 300 fps. The hassle of opening the gun isn't worth the extra 20 fps. An upgraded spring is the standard and most effective way to up the velocity. An upgraded spring guide, piston, piston head and nozzle will all help a little, too. But if 300 is all you're striving for, don't even worry about upgrading. You'll get an extra 3 feet of absolute range and an extra 2 inches of effective range.
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 9, 2004 15:17:07 GMT -5
Thanks for moving this thread, I wasnt sure if it was a tech answer I was looking for or a NOOB answer. I have nothing else to say...
I was looking for more like 350 or maybe just under,but if you think the stock 280 is cool, I just dont like the reach it seams to have right now. Do you think that the colder weather could play a role?
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Post by Jacko on Feb 9, 2004 15:19:07 GMT -5
The cold weather could play a role (Batteries die faster, rubber contracts) but make sure you've got the hop-up tuned and set to the 'sweet spot', so you maximize your range.
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 9, 2004 15:23:18 GMT -5
Yeah I havent messed with the hop up yet but the battery is fresh off the charger.
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Post by Jacko on Feb 9, 2004 15:28:01 GMT -5
Then you'll want to mess with the hop-up.
Hmm. I wonder how many people immediately upgrade their new guns without testing out the hop-up because the range sucks. That might be an interesting bit of data to find out.
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Post by Knief on Feb 9, 2004 15:29:04 GMT -5
The battery doesn't control the velocity of the gun, only the ROF and the life. The spring determines how fast the pistol will go through the cylinder and create the air pressure.
Set your hop up, you'll add a lot to the range.
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 9, 2004 15:48:59 GMT -5
man do I feel like a ass...
Helped a little better but it still arks like crazy.
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Post by xaos on Feb 9, 2004 16:26:47 GMT -5
Hop-ups are wierd...it can take a lot of fiddling to get it just right (be glad you don't have an MP5 ) Stock FPS will be 280ish with .20s You've got a v2 gearbox. Removing the fuse will allow you to cram a bigger battery in there...nothing else. As for springs...if you go with an M100 and oilless metal bushings, that'll be roughly 330fps. Assuming you can do the work yourself, it's a cheap upgrade. I don't feel that upgrades are especially necessary though...I get just as many kills as the guys running 350 Good luck!
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Post by Jacko on Feb 9, 2004 16:31:47 GMT -5
In adjusting your hopup, use very, very minute settings. The M4 hop-up does not travel very far to go from on to off so small adjustments are key. Try opening up your gun and looking down the inner barrel while moving the hop-up gear to see what I mean.
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Post by Dawg Bait on Feb 9, 2004 17:00:47 GMT -5
i cronoed my m4 ris and its around 280fps...
Ross Dawg Bait
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 9, 2004 19:07:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I kinda figured Ide wait till it gets warmer so i can get a more permanint setting. Some thing Im more willing to leave it at. I do think if it works good enough the first couple of skirmishs' then I might just leave it. I dont need to remove the battery then because I have the M4-RIS. So I plan on moving them to the stock any how. As far as the springs and oilless metal bushings if its less keep up down the line then Im all for it but if it will just lead to other things failing then I might be more reserved to do a upgrade. But I still think 350 would be nice,maybe Im just reading to many posts' about how guys have done up there guns. Who knows, maybe Ill just use side arms, I have nothing else to say... I have the HT-93R with 315 FPS and the M92F with 300 FPS. ok. I have nothing else to say...
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Post by HotelSixActual on Feb 9, 2004 20:27:09 GMT -5
FPS is around 265 for a TM Stock M4A1. When i cornod my gun and my friends M4 they all clocked in around 265. The FPS decreases with use becauseof the airleakage problems assosiated with the M4A1
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 10, 2004 1:35:31 GMT -5
Thats news to me ("airleakage problem" ) W.T.F.? I dont want to hear that. Its a brand new gun!... Is there a way to avoid it getting leaky? Or is it just a factory fault?
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