bera
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Post by bera on Jun 11, 2014 22:05:51 GMT -5
Well, it all began when I took apart my ak74. (V3 hint hint) The motor tab bent to the side and when i pushed it back into position, the thin little metal tab from the Motor broke right off. I tried the ol' method of hot gluing the tab on, it worked as in the metal on metal connection was there, but then the actual grip refused to slide onto the motor cage. I then tried to super glue it on, WHICH YOU SHOULD NEVER DO, because the remnant o the motor tab is stuck in the wire and the glue did not connect anything i sanded the super glue off of the terminals, so the glue isnt going to be any type of resistor. How do i reattach the wire and tab to the motor without solder if possible? Actually, What do i do? Help!!
Thank you!
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Post by inj on Jun 11, 2014 22:08:56 GMT -5
There really is no way other than soldering...
You're a version 3 user, so you've got it easy. Soldering the motor connectors on really doesn't get in the way of anything. If you were a version two user... yeah.... you'd have problems.
Why don't you want to solder them on?
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:11:26 GMT -5
My suggestion: Take your gun apart, separating the gearbox from the externals. Remove the motor cage, and take apart the motor, (there are guides on how), and find a suitable replacement for the tab. Be sure to clean the super glue from it. Refer to this picture: static.ddmcdn.com/gif/motor3.jpg it shows the tabs, which you should be able to replacement.
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Post by inj on Jun 11, 2014 22:15:30 GMT -5
That looks like an AEP motor to me...
I'm holding an airsoft motor right now, and I'm not exactly how you would replace the tab with something other than the whole brush-holding piece on the endbell. If I'm wrong, please enlighten me, as I'd love to be able to fix my endbells with broken tabs.
but yeah, if you can take the endbell off, you can replace it. Though I don't know of any places to get replacement endbells...
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:16:24 GMT -5
Would you like to post a picture? I'm not sure we are on the same page. That motor I pictured was for reference.
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Post by inj on Jun 11, 2014 22:21:16 GMT -5
Here:
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Whoa... that link was longer than I was expecting. Sorry.
If the tab is broken on a standard motor, you can't replace it without replacing the whole brush-holding piece or endbell.
On an AEP motor (the one you pictured) it's easy. But on a standard motor, You just can't do it.
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:23:20 GMT -5
I beg to differ, you should be able to jury rig it with a piece of aluminium. As is cut the existing tab and just shove another under the metal shown.
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Post by inj on Jun 11, 2014 22:28:15 GMT -5
Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you were referencing the AEP motor and saying to replace the whole tab, which wouldn't work because AEG motors don't even have that design... I understand now. That would work. I personally think that solder would hold better, but if soldering isn't an option that should do just fine.
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:29:34 GMT -5
Yes, I agree solder would be a better option, but he said that he does not want to solder.
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Post by bera on Jun 11, 2014 22:30:36 GMT -5
That ENTIRE tab right there, gone. I think that there would be the same issue with hot glue if i used solder- The motor would become too fat to fit into the pistol grip, much like an old man into skinny jeans
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Post by bera on Jun 11, 2014 22:31:28 GMT -5
huh. my browser didnt refresh enough to see those.
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:32:34 GMT -5
The tab that the connectors from the gearbox are connected to? Because if so, then our suggestions should work.
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Post by bera on Jun 11, 2014 22:34:08 GMT -5
I beg to differ, you should be able to jury rig it with a piece of aluminium. As is cut the existing tab and just shove another under the metal shown. there is no space for anything to be shoved in, i tried. i still have the tab, just no way to connect it to the rest of the motor.
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Post by zephurah on Jun 11, 2014 22:37:01 GMT -5
I recommend soldering it, if it is too big, you can always use an abrasive of some form to remove material.
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Post by bera on Jun 11, 2014 22:39:41 GMT -5
hmm. so my best bet would be to solder it, as much as id hate to? I heard horror stories about solder getting onto the coil near the connector and shorting out, any idea if thats true?
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