An AVS isn't gonna be any taller than a JPC. Here's my Med MBAV AVS plate bag with a repro medium SAPI overlayed. Pretty much exactly the right size. Mine flares out on the sides because of the MBAV soft armor cut.
My take on the AVS vs the JPC, I like the AVS significantly more. I always found the geometry of the JPC to be problematic, at least for my body type. The shoulder straps went out wide on my shoulders, which made it feel like a backpack about to slip off. It was secure, it just wasn't comfortable. The other big difference I've noticed regarding comfort is the cummerbund attachment design. The cummerbund on the JPC wraps around the back of the plate bag, and while the bungee attachment system did give it some flex, it always felt to me like the plate bag was being pulled into my back. On the AVS, the cummerbund attaches on the inside of the plate bag (that is, between the plate bag and by body) and I don't feel like I'm being sandwiched. On top of that, I hated the velcro on the inside of the JPC's integrated mag pouches. When I pulled a mag, the pouch would close itself up. It mag reindexing mags a two handed job, and under duress it was a huge pain in the ass.
The only real downside I've found to the AVS as I have it set up is that mag capacity is inherently low. With the AR pouch panel, you get three mags on the front max, and stacking them two deep on the cummerbund begins to feel abnormally bulky because the front is so low profile*. Obviously if you run the MOLLE flap, you can set it up like you would any other PC. Crye's 2014 catalog shows a CPC style front flap, which I'm going to try out when its released.
Other difference: The medium JPC weighs 25oz, the medium MBAV cut AVS with the mag pouch flap and three band cummerbund weighs 37oz. By comparison, the medium Mayflower APC in Litelok Multicam (no longer available new) weighs 27oz and the LBT 6094a weighs 46oz. We're really only talking about a pound difference between the heaviest and lightest of the bunch, but just as a consideration. When I'm wearing the AVS, it doesn't feel heavier than the APC. I traded the JPC away last summer, so I can't do much of a side-by-side between the two.
*To work around that, I tucked a mag pouch on the inside of the cummerbund, which the Airlite cummerbund allows you to do. The mag is thinner than my fake plate, so it doesn't rub me at all, and it's pretty easy to access. I'll do the same on the other side when I pick up another mag pouch to fit there:
Knief, would you say that it is worth the ~100 or so over the JPC to purchase the AVS? Or 150ish if you purchase the M4 panel instead of the MOLLE.
If you do get an AVS, don't get the M4 panel. Limits you far too much. You'll only be able to carry three M4 mags up front. Absolutely no way you'll fit a second mag, nor any mags that are larger than an AR mag. The MOLLE flap gives you options.
That's hard to say, because I feel like my complaints about the JPC are largely subjective. For me it was, but I really disliked the JPC and the AVS rectifies pretty much all of the issues I had with it. If anything, I'd take the Mayflower APC over the JPC, and you can get that for about $50 less. I guess my advice would be, find a way to try on both, or at least the JPC and decide for yourself if you can. I know that Timm, for instance, loves his JPC and I can't imagine him spending $100+ more for the AVS. I don't think he'd realize that much benefit from it because he seems to find the JPC very comfortable.
I will say this though, now that the JPC has been cloned to hell and back by every Chinese gear maker on the planet, the AVS is much cooler looking. And that's priceless, right?
For me, spending my money, I like the AVS the best out of the three. For me, spending my money, the price difference isn't that big of a concern. I'm willing to spend a fair amount more for a slightly better piece of equipment (I had to draw the line at the CPC, that was just more than I could afford). If the price difference matters more to you, or you need the extra money to kit it up with pouches, then the AVS may not be the best choice for you. Head to a game and try out the JPC if you can. You might not dislike it as much as I did.
Post by Combat Junkies Airsoft on Apr 27, 2014 15:19:57 GMT -5
From my experience with my Crye Precision JPC, I love the thing. When I got it though I intended on running it with as little as possible on it. The damn thing is so light with the setup I run that I forget I'm running a plate carrier at all. If I were you I would consider What you want out of your carrier before you pull the trigger. Do you want something light weight and low profile Or do you want something with a little more to it that can carry a heavier load more comfortably?
Don't forget to search and assess. There's more scum bags that deserve it.
You can kind of see it in that pic, but I've got one of the vertical support strips running through the middle, which stop sit moving. However, I've run small pouches on the sides that would have a bit of room to wiggle around and it has never bothered me.
This is my current set up for Lightning Strike. I found it incredibly easy to switch between my boogies and my ess's. I literally just push the boogies up onto my forehead under the helmet and drop the ess's down.