|
Post by Canto on May 28, 2013 19:29:17 GMT -5
Identifying ones self is an important factor, because it really helps to know who everyone is. You did. Otherwise, who is it? It's a new account, making a shot in the dark claim.
The behavior of your group as a whole is abhorrent. You all act like one single factor or another was the straw that broke the camels back. No, everything put together makes my decision easy.
To the members of Mayhem that were not doing anything wrong and are being punished collectively as well; I'm sorry. I'm sorry that your team has a few bad apples that ruined it for you. Maybe I'll reverse my decision in a little while once time has passes.
|
|
|
Post by Phantom G3 on May 28, 2013 19:31:52 GMT -5
I woukd like to apologize for anything that the Tan has done during the game. As Tan CO, that is on me since they were my men. I personally did not see any cheating happening on either side, but I was also in Command Central. Being on the Tan side, of course I am only going to hear gripes of the Green Team, which I did and I heard stories of horrible cheating. But I shrugged it of because this will happen during most airsoft games. However, I did hear from multiple people that the assault was started by green. Although, I did not personally see this to know for sure. I do hope that green had fun, however EDIT: Sorry for the oddness and grammar errors. I'm attemptting to do this on my phone. Haha.
|
|
|
Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on May 28, 2013 19:32:29 GMT -5
This was why I left early, before the second game. If players are going to cheat, unless the mods are going to babysit the cheating players, it won't change the tide of the game. So there was honestly no point in staying. Exactly, thus you were not there for it. I find it funny you focus on the assault as opposed to the other three points I listed as well. I've seen my fair share of hot tempers flare at events and honestly the assault is not the primary point. All of your teams behavior as a whole is the problem. Poor sportsmanship and immaturity sums it up pretty well as far as I'm concerned. So, I hope your boys enjoyed those beers; because its the last they'll get there. A few of us left right before you guys re-briefed, but I never heard anyone come up to any of us for that entirety and talk about putting alcohol away or anything on the sort of anything dealing alcohol. So unless you did it after we left, I never heard anything like that. I don't know how we had poor sportsmanship. I can name you on several occasions that I was lit up full-auto with my kill rag on my head as well as other teammates as well. I never lost my cool, but that shit certainly pissed me off. Maybe the tan team figured that a medic was probably near me and was trying to heal me? Since if you're healing a wounded and the wounded player gets shot, then the medic is now considered bleeding out. Better be safe than sorry and keep shooting the dead player? Man do they think outside the box on that one! I'll keep that in mind if that's the kind of sportsmanship that you are talking about. Like I said before, with all the bullshit I had to put up with, I simply chose to leave. Even though you talked majority of the rest of my team to stay. So with everything going wrong, you convinced the team that was getting the short hand of the stick to stay. What did you expect? Eventually something was going to happen if nothing was taken care of, which it seems it wasn't.
|
|
Hippie
New Member
4 8 15 16 23 42
Posts: 67
|
Post by Hippie on May 28, 2013 19:35:20 GMT -5
This is Godzilla from Team Mayhem, first off I'd like to say that Italy was not at fault for hitting the kid because he acted in self defense. The kid hit Italy first because he got shot up close and Italy was defending himself. This is my first Milsim and I'd like to say that it was not properly organized and that Mayhem should not be banned from there, we are never going to play there again. I would also like to say that it is unfair to us that you are going to tell every other event holder to ban us as well and you know that is bullshit. A for the alcohol Italy never said get the fuck away from him because I was there and so were others. Also, you never helped the green team because they found what channel we were on and held down the button so we could not communicate with our other teammates. This event was all messed up from the beginning! You need to fix a lot of your shit before you start another Milsim! MAYHEM RULES!!!!! Since you have never been to or hosted a milsim event, you are no position to judge how well a game is run. So please dont post your ignorant two cents about event hosting. No event coordinator can control individual gameplay and sportsmanship, as demonstrated by your team causing trouble for other players all day long. Your team is the cause of any problems this game had. And you're flat-out lying, when I asked your team a second time to put the beers away in the parking lot Italy swore at me and told me to go away. I'm not just a "girlfriend" that helps run the game, I'm an employee and manger of Hole in the Wall. You're all banned if only for pure disrespect and insubordination. Assault and poor sportsmanship only adds to the case. I witnessed your poor sportsmanship myself, Canto has it exactly right. I spoke to both sides and the tan teams story is the same as the mods' story, only your teams' doesn't match. I know a lot of tan team personally, and they were all experienced enough players to not have to cheat. This milsim was not their first rodeo. There were plenty of mods present, and they witnessed no cheating on the part of tan team.
|
|
|
Post by Phantom G3 on May 28, 2013 19:41:44 GMT -5
Godzilla, I would like to mention that the only channel green shared with tan was channel 10 because that is the mod channel. I do agree that someone was holding down their PTT because I heard it too. However, I did check all the men with radios and they were on their respective squad channels. Hope that clears it up .
|
|
|
Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on May 28, 2013 19:46:15 GMT -5
This is Godzilla from Team Mayhem, first off I'd like to say that Italy was not at fault for hitting the kid because he acted in self defense. The kid hit Italy first because he got shot up close and Italy was defending himself. This is my first Milsim and I'd like to say that it was not properly organized and that Mayhem should not be banned from there, we are never going to play there again. I would also like to say that it is unfair to us that you are going to tell every other event holder to ban us as well and you know that is bullshit. A for the alcohol Italy never said get the fuck away from him because I was there and so were others. Also, you never helped the green team because they found what channel we were on and held down the button so we could not communicate with our other teammates. This event was all messed up from the beginning! You need to fix a lot of your shit before you start another Milsim! MAYHEM RULES!!!!! Since you have never been to or hosted a milsim event, you are no position to judge how well a game is run. So please dont post your ignorant two cents about event hosting. No event coordinator can control individual gameplay and sportsmanship, as demonstrated by your team causing trouble for other players all day long. Your team is the cause of any problems this game had. And you're flat-out lying, when I asked your team a second time to put the beers away in the parking lot Italy swore at me and told me to go away. I'm not just a "girlfriend" that helps run the game, I'm an employee and manger of Hole in the Wall. You're all banned if only for pure disrespect and insubordination. Assault and poor sportsmanship only adds to the case. I witnessed your poor sportsmanship myself, Canto has it exactly right. I spoke to both sides and the tan teams story is the same as the mods' story, only your teams' doesn't match. I know a lot of tan team personally, and they were all experienced enough players to not have to cheat. This milsim was not their first rodeo. There were plenty of mods present, and they witnessed no cheating on the part of tan team. It's always easier to side with that of your friends, then people you don't know. It felt like from the start that the mods were siding with the tan team. What problems and trouble were we causing all day long? We were having issues with cheating throughout the whole day. Were we causing issues by calling your friends cheaters by not calling their hits? Then maybe instead of bringing up problems to mods and the event organizers like we were supposed to and should have then we should have taken care of it ourselves?
|
|
|
Post by diusfidus on May 28, 2013 19:50:25 GMT -5
Whats a troll? Im just saying that a lot of things happened besides what went on with Team Mayhem. Just suggesting not to single out a group when there was more going on. Like Frosty stated..was the guy that was involved in the conflict with Italy banned too? I mean ban us from hole in the wall paintball is understandable but from other events in michigan? Dont you think thats a little harsh?
|
|
|
Post by Phantom G3 on May 28, 2013 19:53:43 GMT -5
Not to derail any flamimg going on, but I do have some video of the game from the Tan Command. I will edit the more boring parts if anyone is interested in viewing it.
|
|
|
Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on May 28, 2013 19:58:57 GMT -5
Not to derail any flamimg going on, but I do have some video of the game from the Tan Command. I will edit the more boring parts if anyone is interested in viewing it. We're not flaming. We're trying to address points that are addressing us as bad players. As to DiusFidus being a troll, he didn't need to have an MiA account before this incident. He doesn't frequent the forum very often or really have a need to since higher up members like myself deal with these things (going to events/registering, or after-action sort of reports like this bullshit).
|
|
|
Post by poojak on May 28, 2013 20:01:32 GMT -5
I'll take you up on the vid Phantom
I actually made this account in the off chance somebody had pictures or video of the event. I'd appreciate the opportunity to see the footage once it's all edited.
|
|
Hippie
New Member
4 8 15 16 23 42
Posts: 67
|
Post by Hippie on May 28, 2013 20:05:15 GMT -5
Since you have never been to or hosted a milsim event, you are no position to judge how well a game is run. So please dont post your ignorant two cents about event hosting. No event coordinator can control individual gameplay and sportsmanship, as demonstrated by your team causing trouble for other players all day long. Your team is the cause of any problems this game had. And you're flat-out lying, when I asked your team a second time to put the beers away in the parking lot Italy swore at me and told me to go away. I'm not just a "girlfriend" that helps run the game, I'm an employee and manger of Hole in the Wall. You're all banned if only for pure disrespect and insubordination. Assault and poor sportsmanship only adds to the case. I witnessed your poor sportsmanship myself, Canto has it exactly right. I spoke to both sides and the tan teams story is the same as the mods' story, only your teams' doesn't match. I know a lot of tan team personally, and they were all experienced enough players to not have to cheat. This milsim was not their first rodeo. There were plenty of mods present, and they witnessed no cheating on the part of tan team. It's always easier to side with that of your friends, then people you don't know. It felt like from the start that the mods were siding with the tan team. What problems and trouble were we causing all day long? We were having issues with cheating throughout the whole day. Were we causing issues by calling your friends cheaters by not calling their hits? Then maybe instead of bringing up problems to mods and the event organizers like we were supposed to and should have then we should have taken care of it ourselves? And like the mods were supposed to, they looked into it. No cheating was found on the part of tan team. Anyone who has been to Bangor knows there is a lot of brush; your bbs often dont make it to your target. I heard more complaints about cheating from tan team about green team several times over. Besides that, crazy things like a green guy running up a hill screaming about calling hits, among others. People will not want to play with you if you act nuts and display overall uncalled for aggression during gameplay. It's just a game, and people play to have fun. When you make it not fun the way you did at this event, no one will want to play with you. It's as simple as that. Sorry we hurt your feelings! Your teammate was so unstable as to cold clock someone over hit calling IN A GAME. He swore at a field staff member, a female staff member. I don't know what kind of women raised you, but most polite company would agree that it's very wrong and socially unacceptable to scream at a woman in public, let alone a complete stranger. I strongly recommend anger management. I believe your team tried to take care of it yourselves, and that assault ended in your team's banning. Accept what you did wrong, apologize, and change like real adults. Stop pointing fingers at other people for your fuck ups. Man up.
|
|
|
Post by diusfidus on May 28, 2013 20:13:42 GMT -5
Both sides are at fault. Why Im simply saying get more people to help run these things. So nothing like this happens again. Only disappointed at the fact Mayhem is being singled out.
|
|
|
Post by MayhemxxxOSO on May 28, 2013 20:14:03 GMT -5
It's always easier to side with that of your friends, then people you don't know. It felt like from the start that the mods were siding with the tan team. What problems and trouble were we causing all day long? We were having issues with cheating throughout the whole day. Were we causing issues by calling your friends cheaters by not calling their hits? Then maybe instead of bringing up problems to mods and the event organizers like we were supposed to and should have then we should have taken care of it ourselves? And like the mods were supposed to, they looked into it. No cheating was found on the part of tan team. Anyone who has been to Bangor knows there is a lot of brush; your bbs often dont make it to your target. I heard more complaints about cheating from tan team about green team several times over. Besides that, crazy things like a green guy running up a hill screaming about calling hits, among others. People will not want to play with you if you act nuts and display overall uncalled for aggression during gameplay. It's just a game, and people play to have fun. When you make it not fun the way you did at this event, no one will want to play with you. It's as simple as that. Sorry we hurt your feelings! Your teammate was so unstable as to cold clock someone over hit calling IN A GAME. He swore at a field staff member, a female staff member. I don't know what kind of women raised you, but most polite company would agree that it's very wrong and socially unacceptable to scream at a woman in public, let alone a complete stranger. I strongly recommend anger management. I believe your team tried to take care of it yourselves, and that assault ended in your team's banning. Accept what you did wrong, apologize, and change like real adults. Stop pointing fingers at other people for your fuck ups. Man up. Hippie. I was standing between you and italy. I remember what he had said when you told him to get rid of the beer. He had said (in a flustered manner) "no, forget it. just go away. im dumping it out right now". He didnt swear at you. It may have sounded like fuck, but it was forget it. Believe it or not, italy does have manners when it comes to women. In that situation it wouldnt seem like it, but he does.
|
|
|
Post by godzilla on May 28, 2013 20:15:41 GMT -5
This is Godzilla from Team Mayhem, first off I'd like to say that Italy was not at fault for hitting the kid because he acted in self defense. The kid hit Italy first because he got shot up close and Italy was defending himself. This is my first Milsim and I'd like to say that it was not properly organized and that Mayhem should not be banned from there, we are never going to play there again. I would also like to say that it is unfair to us that you are going to tell every other event holder to ban us as well and you know that is bullshit. A for the alcohol Italy never said get the fuck away from him because I was there and so were others. Also, you never helped the green team because they found what channel we were on and held down the button so we could not communicate with our other teammates. This event was all messed up from the beginning! You need to fix a lot of your shit before you start another Milsim! MAYHEM RULES!!!!! Since you have never been to or hosted a milsim event, you are no position to judge how well a game is run. So please dont post your ignorant two cents about event hosting. No event coordinator can control individual gameplay and sportsmanship, as demonstrated by your team causing trouble for other players all day long. Your team is the cause of any problems this game had. And you're flat-out lying, when I asked your team a second time to put the beers away in the parking lot Italy swore at me and told me to go away. I'm not just a "girlfriend" that helps run the game, I'm an employee and manger of Hole in the Wall. You're all banned if only for pure disrespect and insubordination. Assault and poor sportsmanship only adds to the case. I witnessed your poor sportsmanship myself, Canto has it exactly right. I spoke to both sides and the tan teams story is the same as the mods' story, only your teams' doesn't match. I know a lot of tan team personally, and they were all experienced enough players to not have to cheat. This milsim was not their first rodeo. There were plenty of mods present, and they witnessed no cheating on the part of tan team. How did I have poor sportsmanship? You were never on the field you sat your ass back at the staging area, the only time you actually moved from the staging area was to see what happened about the kid who got knocked the hell out. I guess its easier to side with your "friends" and why are you pointing out the GREEN team the most? I bet you cannot answer that cause you know you so called moderators backed the tan team because they were all there before. I think that you moderators need to re-establish this field because its complete bullshit that you called the green team out more than the tan, you all need to man up. Also Id like to say that it was really cool how your "girlfriend" had to have some people watch our team that went back to throw away garbage, real mature kid real mature. Why don't you two go drink some beer with the other team that was drinking there as well.
|
|
|
Post by diusfidus on May 28, 2013 20:16:19 GMT -5
Sorry to double post(stupid phone). Just dont want a bad rep put on Mayhem over some incidents. Hope this will be worked out in the future.
|
|