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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 15, 2013 22:51:48 GMT -5
If I were you Phantom, I would hold off on buying things to "beef up" your current weapon. Just set that money aside and have it go towards your new primary. well all I really got was 2 VN style Mid Cap mags, 1 high cap,G&P handle guards with a lower rail mount and a Fore Grip, and a brand new Tosco Red Dot all for $27. So I think a deal like that is worth it Thanks Pagan! Umarex is another rebranding company that specializes in licensing HK trademarked items. Their 416, for instance, is made by VFC. Find out who makes their G36k, then research that. It very well could be a mediocre or low end company, as the attached name "Umarex" doesn't tell you anything directly. If you want to buy from a manufacturer and not a rebranding company, the better ones out there are G&G, Tokyo Marui, VFC, G&P, King Arms, Ares, Classic Army (not their sportlines, they're terrible), ICS (not their sportlines either), and KWA. I'm sure I'm missing one or two, but those are the big ones. Not every model from each of those companies is a winner, but by and large they're solid. G&G and TM are going to be the most reliable out of the bunch. Thanks for the heads up, I will look for a better G36k perhaps from King Arms should they make one
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Post by ctres on Apr 15, 2013 22:53:58 GMT -5
I can't believe how long this Walmart discussion has gone on. If he doesn't want to listen then so be it, there's only so much you can say to try to convince him. Javelin/APS which is the same thing as "black ops" or whatever it's called, is just junk. They are overpriced and offer nothing that sets them apart from any other manufacturer.
What the OP can't seem to understand is that there are only a handful of companies that ACTUALLY produce airsoft guns (all of which are overseas), and then there are a ton of rebrands. A ton of companies like cybergun, UTG, this "black ops" BS, and various other brands have never manufactured an airsoft replica in the entire history of their existence. They just special order guns from a REAL manufacturer, sometimes with a few modifications, and slap their own label on them to sell in the U.S. For some reason new airsofters always seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around this. If the OP doesn't believe me, or the others who have tried to explain more or less the same thing then I guess that is his loss. I don't understand why people bother starting a new topic if they don't want to listen to the suggestions that others will give.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 15, 2013 22:59:50 GMT -5
I can't believe how long this Walmart discussion has gone on. If he doesn't want to listen then so be it, there's only so much you can say to try to convince him. Javelin/APS which is the same thing as "black ops" or whatever it's called, is just junk. They are overpriced and offer nothing that sets them apart from any other manufacturer. What the OP can't seem to understand is that there are only a handful of companies that ACTUALLY produce airsoft guns (all of which are overseas), and then there are a ton of rebrands. A ton of companies like cybergun, UTG, this "black ops" BS, and various other brands have never manufactured an airsoft replica in the entire history of their existence. They just special order guns from a REAL manufacturer, sometimes with a few modifications, and slap their own label on them to sell in the U.S. For some reason new airsofters always seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around this. If the OP doesn't believe me, or the others who have tried to explain more or less the same thing then I guess that is his loss. I don't understand why people bother starting a new topic if they don't want to listen to the suggestions that others will give. Did you actually read the entire thread, or just the first page. Cause if you did you would See this argument is already over. and until I have more guns i will NOT be buying the overpriced M4 Diamondback, i probably won't even then.
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Post by ctres on Apr 15, 2013 23:11:44 GMT -5
I read through the entire thing, and see that you continue to suggest that you will buy a gun that everyone strongly recommended against, so I thought I'd add my 2 cents. I hope that you are willing to consider some of the options that others have suggested. If that is the case, and you feel that the information in my first post was completely irrelevant and/or you already knew everything contained in it then feel free to ignore it, I however believe that it was relevant and contains pertinent and useful information, so unless the mods feel otherwise it's not going to change.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 15, 2013 23:20:37 GMT -5
I read through the entire thing, and see that you continue to suggest that you will buy a gun that everyone strongly recommended against, so I thought I'd add my 2 cents. I hope that you are willing to consider some of the options that others have suggested. If that is the case, and you feel that the information in my first post was completely irrelevant and/or you already knew everything contained in it then feel free to ignore it, I however believe that it was relevant and contains pertinent and useful information, so unless the mods feel otherwise it's not going to change. You *Edit* Obviously comes off as rude. not what I am trying to do. but I did state it is unlikely I will buy the Diamondback in the future. missed something, because after Knief pointed out that the Diamondback is simply a rebraded gun with a better stock I said I agree it is not worth it, and I will most likely not get it ever. I already Have the M4 Viper and Cannot return it. So I have no idea what you missed. But I do not, continue to ignore everyone's advice, I am currently looking to find who makes the best G36K. but anyway thanks Pagan, Kneif and everyone else for posting.
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Post by Simon on Apr 15, 2013 23:46:55 GMT -5
Phantom, You're going to want to cut it with the attitude. You're already starting to turn off a lot of people in this community and blasting a bunch of respected members with shit like "learn to read" is going to ostracize you quickly.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 15, 2013 23:51:04 GMT -5
Phantom, You're going to want to cut it with the attitude. You're already starting to turn off a lot of people in this community and blasting a bunch of respected members with shit like "learn to read" is going to ostracize you quickly. ? *Edit* Nevermind I got it, coming off as rude again, I edited my previous post
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Post by Simon on Apr 16, 2013 0:03:45 GMT -5
Now that I'm done with that, the best company for any G36 variant is Ares. Ares guns are H&K trademarked and sold under the name Umarex as well.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 16, 2013 0:11:32 GMT -5
Now that I'm done with that, the best company for any G36 variant is Ares. Ares guns are H&K trademarked and sold under the name Umarex as well. Hrm, well Kneif Advised me to steer clear of Umarex, and someone else I spoke to advised that JG is one of the best for a G36K. I will check Airsplat and compare them. thanks for the info *Edit* The Ares model is twice the price of the JG and doesn't even come with a battery?
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Post by Cats (Doom) on Apr 16, 2013 0:59:27 GMT -5
The batteries that come with airsoft guns are usually considered "testing batteries" because of their poor quality, basically included so you can "use them to test if the gun works"; so the fact that it doesn't come with a battery is no big loss since you probably want to buy a nicer battery later anyway. That's not to say "testing batteries" are bad, if you treat them good they can do the trick just fine; but once you get really serious you'll want to buy extra batteries and/or lipos anyway.
I think Knief was just trying to point out that with rebranding companies, like Umarex, you have to do careful research to figure out what your really buying. I know Umarex has G36 models in the $150, $300, and $400 ranges, so it's likely that they're rebranding guns from two or more manufacturers. You just have to research it.
"Cybergun" is another huge rebranding company for future reference.
JG makes a good G36 for the price range; since most of their models are around $100 to $150.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 16, 2013 1:12:40 GMT -5
The batteries that come with airsoft guns are usually considered "testing batteries" because of their poor quality, basically included so you can "use them to test if the gun works"; so the fact that it doesn't come with a battery is no big loss since you probably want to buy a nicer battery later anyway. That's not to say "testing batteries" are bad, if you treat them good they can do the trick just fine; but once you get really serious you'll want to buy extra batteries and/or lipos anyway. I think Knief was just trying to point out that with rebranding companies, like Umarex, you have to do careful research to figure out what your really buying. I know Umarex has G36 models in the $150, $300, and $400 ranges, so it's likely that they're rebranding guns from two or more manufacturers. You just have to research it. "Cybergun" is another huge rebranding company for future reference. JG makes a good G36 for the price range; since most of their models are around $100 to $150. So then the Ares is most likely worth the prices?
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 16, 2013 3:30:39 GMT -5
One of the guns JG clones the best is the G36. If you wanted to gut it in the future, go with a JG. If you want the best possible externals and superior out-of-the-box performance, go with the ARES. Cost wise, I'd take the JG and gut it.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Apr 16, 2013 3:58:27 GMT -5
One of the guns JG clones the best is the G36. If you wanted to gut it in the future, go with a JG. If you want the best possible externals and superior out-of-the-box performance, go with the ARES. Cost wise, I'd take the JG and gut it. So as I am going to take the G36K and Mod it to look like Reaper's Custom one from DOOM it would be better to go with the JG G36K? also does the JG one have EBB?
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Post by Pagan on Apr 16, 2013 4:04:30 GMT -5
Don't bother with EBB. It does absolutely nothing and can cause more issues than it's worth. Get a regular AEG and go from there.
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 16, 2013 4:10:27 GMT -5
Don't bother with EBB. It does absolutely nothing and can cause more issues than it's worth. Get a regular AEG and go from there. ^That. Also, if you're customizing the shit out of it, there's no point in buying a more expensive model. It's not gonna look the same in the end if you succeed, right?
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