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Post by Myers on Jan 10, 2013 12:12:13 GMT -5
To me, the only guns that should be allowed full auto privileges are GBBs. They naturally have a low ammo capacity per magazine and cooldown can also be a factor in how often full auto will actually be used. I do like the idea in theory of using low capacity magazines, however how do you enforce and check that everyone is using low-caps, and not mid caps? It's easier to distinguish high caps from non-high cap mags. But how do you check between mid capacity magazines, standard capacity magazines and low capacity magazines. All my mids are 110-130 rounders. Well, this idea might be a little farfetched and expensive, but a way to make sure that everyone is using low-caps, is if the host/field owner provides low-caps, and holds onto your mids/highs as collateral. I know this would probably be extremely costly due to the multiple makes/types of mags out there, but it's an idea. Another way to possibly enforce the low-cap only games would to have your mags loaded by the hosts only before the first game, and then getting "taped/marked" afterwards to verify that it is in fact a low-cap. It doesn't take too long to fill up 6 30 rounders, so if the host had 3 or so guys doing this at briefing, it wouldn't suck up too much time. After all the mags were verified, the players then could fill their own mags.
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Post by snafu on Jan 10, 2013 12:18:33 GMT -5
I think the best solution is to just not allow FA.
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Post by Gunny87 on Jan 10, 2013 12:20:14 GMT -5
Definitely ideas,
But with all the types of guns, and types of magazines and fitment issues. I for one would be pissed if I paid to play at a game and let's say whoever was running the games decided to choose MAG brand low capacity magazines for all AR type guns. I'd be S.O.L, because MAG brand doesn't fit in my G&P, so I wouldn't be able to use them.
Between the costs of having to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on boxes of magazines to swap out to players, and then all the time and work to load them and do that, I see that being way to impractical just to use low-caps at games to use full auto.
Chances are if the owners of Tango Down want to use full auto. They're going to use it regardless of the types of magazines they're using, and any magazines limitations.
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Post by Greekas (TehG3A3) on Jan 10, 2013 12:22:21 GMT -5
Again, I'd either allow FA only on GBBs or not allow it at all.
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Post by Dallas on Jan 10, 2013 13:50:48 GMT -5
The only possible compromise I could think of is having "high risk" floors, which allow full auto and are designed to be harder to navigate without engaging the OpFor. Other lower floors would have standard rules (semi auto for AEGs, full auto for GBBs, ect.) and be geared towards different game types or kinds of engagements.
Just an idea.
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Post by M.S.-ARC on Jan 10, 2013 14:00:19 GMT -5
Essentially the decision is theirs to make. Trying to micro-manage every little detail about their business here on MIA isn't going to do anyone any good. Plus we all know that pretty much every other CQB place here in MI now are doing their own thing anyways (and aren't up to our rules) so where's the mico-managing going on with that?
Like I've said over and over, we are working with these guys to make sure it will be a place that MIA in general would appreciate going to.
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Post by Snarf on Jan 10, 2013 16:29:50 GMT -5
Well, you could have them host some MIA specific games and then they're use our rules. Otherwise, they're free to use their own rules. Also, I saw that they mentioned a after 9:00 "hardcore" time where it was 18+ only; they could use that time for the more experienced players who prefer semi-auto only. Just a thought.
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 10, 2013 22:39:45 GMT -5
Only problem with all of that "after nine stuff" most of us are burned out by five or six pm so that (to me) wouldn't mean squat unless it was a "night time game". So they can run later rec events how ever they felt.
I would honestly be interested in semi auto in doors only period because if and when an op for team gets in a area that is a bottle neck lets say then people just won't be able to get things to progress.
It becomes a stale mate with every one slinging a couple hundred bb's each. But if there was a late night game when more mature players were running and gunning a lot of the more veteran players would probably just run semi only any way. I have all gbbr's and even when I had a systema I did it the same way. So I guess it would depend on the rules set up ahead of time.
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Post by Overkill on Jan 14, 2013 18:35:33 GMT -5
Well I've said my piece on FA in previous threads, so I won't beat the dead horse some more (it doesnt even really look like a horse at this point its been beaten so much ). If they have multiple floors, and think they will pull in enough business to run them with dedicated "I like FA, I like SA" crowds, then more power to them! Realistically... there are most likely more people who would forgo the restriction of FA in order to play at an Arena like this, if it is done properly. IMHO, FA allowed, No high-caps or box mags, limit to # of rounds/BB's allowed carried per game, be it speedloaders (for those with GBBRs with $30-$50 mags) or 10 midcaps or 20 lowcaps, etc, and lastly cultivate a playing culture/habit promoting burst fire (at most). Throw in the occasional SA game. This model is followed by a few fields on the east coast of the US and seems to work well. I for one GREATLY look forward to this field, and will definitely be taking the club down upon its completion. Possibly sooner if they feel like getting their hands dirty. We have a few aspiring Engineers who might be of use. If you offered game rental vouchers, coupons,game passes, etc in exchange for labor, you might be able to attract some more hands. Even if its only 10% off games for 6 months, etc.
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Post by tdtactical on Jan 21, 2013 21:10:55 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Sorry for the late reply. I was in Las Vegas to see Shot Show. Thank you for offering help. We defiantly can use your resources. I will talk to my business partner and let you guys know what type of discount(s) we can offer.
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Post by tdtactical on Jan 22, 2013 18:14:05 GMT -5
(Randy) Hello all. What we are looking for is some guys who want to get some free field time in exchange for some time putting together our arena (construction). Engineers as well. We can discuss how long the period will last in relations to time worked once we get some feed back on this.
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Post by Zdybel on Jan 22, 2013 19:08:42 GMT -5
Im down to help, what would we need to bring?
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Post by tdtactical on Jan 23, 2013 20:37:36 GMT -5
You don't have to bring anything beside yourself. I think we have tools needed for this job. Now we have to see how many of you guys we get and when do you guys prefer to help, like in mornings, after work or on the weekends. We are in the building all the time. Once we find out how many guys are there we can coordinate accordingly.
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Post by Pagan on Jan 24, 2013 3:59:20 GMT -5
I'd be willing to help out on either a friday or saturday evening.
I have classes until 9 pm and then have to be up for work at 2 am Monday-Thursday, so those are really the only free days for me.
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Post by Knief on Jan 24, 2013 11:50:04 GMT -5
Guh, that's better. Thread title was killing me.
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