I bought a A&K Masada a couple months ago-

[fragbert]

The first thing I noticed was that the barrel wobbles horrendously. Because of its barrel quick swap design, if the threads aren't 100% correct, the barrel can wobble quite a lot. It's loud and obviously causes some horrible accuracy problems.

Now what I wanted from you guys is some suggestions. What should I do? I'm relatively bad at tinkering with the internals on my guns so I stay away from them making this all foreign to me.

I will post some pictures later to give people that don't own one, an idea on what I'm talking about. For people that own one, have you had the same problem? Can I buy a new barrel locking system, without buying another whole barrel system?

Also just a wee bit more information, I think my thread problems come from the threads on the gun, not the threads on the barrel system.

[levithan(aka)rdog735]

i bought a a&k svd and the whole barrle came of so maybe a&k is known for bad barrel desings

[fragbert]

Nah it's not a bad design, it's actually quite nice being able to change out your barrel with no tools in a couple seconds. I just received a faulty product =/

[archr5]

I have one of these and it locks in without an issue. I remember once I didn't have the barrel seated down in the gun all the way and "locked it in" and it wobbled like crazy. It was just a matter of unlocking the retention ring, re-seating the barrel so it felt solid side to side, and then locking in the ring again.

Pictures of your retention ring from all sides (just to verify that the "threads" are in good shape) and pictures of the whole thing assembled would be helpful because I could compare it to mine and see what the differences are.

If the retention ring is in good shape then I suppose the issue could be a defect in the part of the gun itself where the ring locks in...

[fragbert]

May 23, 2012 15:53:57 GMT -5 archr5 said:

I have one of these and it locks in without an issue. I remember once I didn't have the barrel seated down in the gun all the way and "locked it in" and it wobbled like crazy. It was just a matter of unlocking the retention ring, re-seating the barrel so it felt solid side to side, and then locking in the ring again.

Pictures of your retention ring from all sides (just to verify that the "threads" are in good shape) and pictures of the whole thing assembled would be helpful because I could compare it to mine and see what the differences are.

If the retention ring is in good shape then I suppose the issue could be a defect in the part of the gun itself where the ring locks in...

I tore it apart. The locking mech isn't bad apparently. Absolutely no wobble when I have it just by itself. It must be how the mechanism anchors onto the gun. I'll just be sure to make everything snug when I put it back together and see what the results are. I'm sure it'll be better

Also since you have one of these, do you have problems with your selector switch? Well not problems but mine is not a smooth transition between firing modes...actually now that I look down in there, it looks like the gears are misaligned a bit which is probably what's causing this.

[archr5]

I took mine apart when I got it because the selector switch was missing the spring that locks it into place when you put it in position and I was determined to figure out why it wasn't working.

So basically it flicks from safe to full auto and back to safe. firing on semi vibrates the selector into full auto position. (it still does this, I'm still waiting on a part.)

Before you start monkeying with the gears (more on that in a bit) I'd suggest just removing the switches from the outside of the gun and see if maybe they're just pushed down too tight.

Be very careful that you don't lose the detent spring that allows the switch to "click" into position though... if you do that you'll be in the same boat I am with the switch that only really works in Safe and Full Auto.

That being said, The gears on my gun were a bit misaligned and it's a HUGE pain to figure out how to re-align them since it requires some trial and error.

If you do take the plunge and try to align them yourself there... this PDF and Video combination was the most helpful thing to me for trying to figure out how to get them together again. but even with them both for reference it took me 2 and a half hours to figure it out.

The video isn't the best thing in the world and the real take away, that he doesn't really mention, is that the selector switch on one side of the gun needs to be in a specific orientation so you can rotate the other one a bit at a time...

it's almost like a ratcheting motion, moving one then the other and then back to the first one until they line up.

www.letsdesignhappytime.com/AKACR.pdf
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDB5Y-ncJU

I literally had to take breaks in-between tinkering because I was getting incredibly frustrated trying to figure out why, even though I thought I was following the instructions, it wasn't working.

[Zorak]

May 23, 2012 14:14:25 GMT -5 levithan(aka)rdog735 said:

i bought a a&k svd and the whole barrle came of so maybe a&k is known for bad barrel desings

Oh hell no.

Feb 17, 2003 23:05:01 GMT -5 Hadoken said:

6 - Please use proper grammar and punctuation. Not only will you get your message across much clearer, but other forum members might actually be able to reply to your post instead of trying to decipher your enigmatic nonsense.

This is your third warning, which means you get a week to think about how you might post in a more literate fashion.

[fragbert]

May 23, 2012 17:45:53 GMT -5 archr5 said:

I took mine apart when I got it because the selector switch was missing the spring that locks it into place when you put it in position and I was determined to figure out why it wasn't working.

So basically it flicks from safe to full auto and back to safe. firing on semi vibrates the selector into full auto position. (it still does this, I'm still waiting on a part.)

Before you start monkeying with the gears (more on that in a bit) I'd suggest just removing the switches from the outside of the gun and see if maybe they're just pushed down too tight.

Be very careful that you don't lose the detent spring that allows the switch to "click" into position though... if you do that you'll be in the same boat I am with the switch that only really works in Safe and Full Auto.

That being said, The gears on my gun were a bit misaligned and it's a HUGE pain to figure out how to re-align them since it requires some trial and error.

If you do take the plunge and try to align them yourself there... this PDF and Video combination was the most helpful thing to me for trying to figure out how to get them together again. but even with them both for reference it took me 2 and a half hours to figure it out.

The video isn't the best thing in the world and the real take away, that he doesn't really mention, is that the selector switch on one side of the gun needs to be in a specific orientation so you can rotate the other one a bit at a time...

it's almost like a ratcheting motion, moving one then the other and then back to the first one until they line up.

www.letsdesignhappytime.com/AKACR.pdf
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDB5Y-ncJU

I literally had to take breaks in-between tinkering because I was getting incredibly frustrated trying to figure out why, even though I thought I was following the instructions, it wasn't working.

I stripped it all down and fixed all the wobbles and re-aligned the gears down there. I actually figured that all out after some tinkering. The mechanism makes sense if you just look at it. I could see it being frustrating if you were just going off a video.

One thing that did go wrong though was I lost the little pin thing that sits under the right side selector switch. Well I didn't lose it but I stuck it in the other switch on accident and it actually pushed through into a hollow spot in the switch so now it's stuck. I think I can just use a little section of paper clip to replace it though. All it does is act as spacer so it shouldn't matter.

[archr5]

Awesome. Glad you were able to get it tightened up!

I feel your pain on the selector switch, let me know what you rig up, I'm pretty much in the same situation.