Functional 40mm Grenades

[Gunny87]

Oct 10, 2011 13:10:17 GMT -5 Knief said:

Punch a balloon as hard as you can and see if it pops. Then punch your friend's face as hard as you can and see if that pops.

I see your point...

[cqbr]

There's the vid Knife was talking about.



These are old news though. Find a way to safely import them into the U.S. and I'll definitely buy some. It's not like you can't use them at smaller games with your buddies who aren't bleeding from the vagina. Pretty sure this is all a waste though, since they can't be imported easily due to their explosive nature. Still a very cool idea though.

[Overkill]

Oct 10, 2011 12:06:31 GMT -5 Gunny87 said:

Of course I'm joking but they fired it at balloons and none of them popped!!!! How safe can they get??

Ummmmm, safe?



Theres no WAY anyone actually wants to get hit with that.

The balloons are an apples and oranges argument. Our skin isn't made out of rubber. The splash of the grenades BB's and their adverse affect on the balloons has no affect on the clearly volatile pyrotechnic (See Above Photo?) that propels said BB's.

[Gunny87]

So they aren't like fire-crackers??? As long as you don't hold them with your fist closed then they won't hurt you??? j/k.

[Dr Black]

I feel that airsoft replicas are not "safe" in nature because they are 1:1 scale of their real steel counterparts. But its the user/player and how they use them that makes them "safe".

If I had some I would be more than willing to do a safety review on them. Involving them being Shot directly at a player (Me). Shot into very dry very flammable brush/leafs. A simulated misfire not leaving the barrel of the launcher. A Misfire with projectile not traveling far from the shooter. Basically I would use them as NOT intended and see what are the results.

[Thor]

The biggest difference between most pyrotechnics used at games currently is that they either are not intended to be fired directly at players (in the case of mortars and whatnot) or they are such a low yield explosive (easter egg grenades) that injury is very unlikely to occur.

These launcher fired grenades seem to take the worst parts of both of the above examples and combine them into a device that is in fact being fired directly at players. Sure at 10 feet or more, it's probably safe, but what happens when someone lobs one out and it hits me square in the chest, or the face? If these were designed to be indirect fire, as in they go up in the air, explode, and rain bb's down, I probably would be ok with them. The fact that they are basically meant to be shot at people makes me a bit more apprehensive.

[justified]

All I see is someones rig catching on fire.

[Thor]

1000D Cordura shouldn't catch fire that easily. Even if one of those hit you square in the chest I don't think it is burning hot enough or long enough to cause the nylon to ignite. Now a lighter weight rig, or BDU's that aren't no melt no drip, yeah they might ignite.

My main concern would be flash burns on your skin. Although I would still be pretty pissed if someone charred my plate carrier.

[justified]

Basically what everyone here is saying is not a chance these are coming to our games anytime soon.

[Thor]

Pretty much. I can see there being room for pyrotechnics as "window dressing", that is, stuff going boom in the air away from players and being used to simulate an area effect at games, and I can see a place for very low yield explosions from easter egg grenades. Weapon launched explosives though, I'm not sold on it.

[Gigas]

Why not just make it mandatory that if you have these you shoot them well above players heads so there is no direct impacts, and state that if anyone fires one directly at a player/players they will be ejected from play and legal actions may be taken upon the person who fired it.

Just a thought.

[justified]

Still just the chance it might happen by accident. Firing it over one players head leaves room for it to hit someone behind him or on a case of innacurate firing hit the other person directly in the face. Just stick to a grenade launcher.

[Thor]

Because while it's fairly easy for an event host/coordinator to designate an area for larger pyro to be fired from that will minimize the risk of players coming into contact with it, all it would take would be one jumpy kid to accidentally fire one off in the heat of the moment and peg someone in the chest or face.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't think these are neat, I really do, but I see where it could be very, very easy for these to be used irresponsibly, whether it's on purpose or not.

Plus, you still run into the whole problem of importing them. And I wouldn't necessarily want to be the first guy to start making them here. I just feel like while these might add a touch of realism, the risk to safety is a bit high for my liking. I've been injured at games before, it's not fun. It turns what should be a great day and turns it into a sucky one really fast. And I'd hate for someone's day to be ruined from skin burns.

[justified]

Oct 10, 2011 20:13:08 GMT -5 Thor said:

I've been injured at games before, it's not fun. It turns what should be a great day and turns it into a sucky one really fast. And I'd hate for someone's day to be ruined from skin burns.

Completely agreed. I took a bb to the dome a few days ago tore some skin off the top of my head. Started bleeding profusely and that ended a good hour - 2 of playing due to the fact I can't very well play with blood leaking out my head. But with this your more worried about burns/broken bones. Pretty simple the fire needs to be contained and somehow it should be padded so if it does hit you the worst you get is a bruise.

[BoredKender]

I would even go as far as to liken this to a thread from a while back about modifying shotgun shells for airsoft use. Just an all-around bad idea and begging for lawyers.