KWA MP7 charging handle became dislodged *SOLUTION

[rodrick]

Alright Airsofters, I only bought my KWA MP7 if only a week ago, and I seem to already have done something wrong. What seems to have happened is the Charging handle has been dislodged from the everything else in the gun.

Fig. 1: This is a picture of the Charging handle, note that nothing is attached to the nobby end.


Fig.2: This is the gun showing off its inners, note that the on the top of the guts, there is a little gap for the Charging handle, but not nearly big enough to fit the nobby hook thing.


Fig. 3: This is when the back plate, with charging handle, attached to the rest of the gun, as far as the charging handle could go forward. That extra inch is the nobby thing hitting the thing that is supposed to keep the nobby thing attached to the gun


Fig. 4: This is the same set up as Fig. 3, only that I pulled the charging handle all the way back as far as it could go to prove that it is not attached to anything.


I was sooo hoping to make this my main gun, until this happened, please help me MIA community, you are my only hope!


Edit, The Reconing: I found out that I could remove the charging handle from the back plate. I broke the 4th wall, and in no time, I not only liberated Lybia, but Fixed my MP7A1 to its prior Glory!

[triggs]

Honestly those pictures are waaay too small and I can't tell worth shit. It's impossible to tell if something broke or simply came off. Not to mention the description isn't any help.

Anyways,

Here's a complete breakdown of the KWA MP7. On your own check the the diagram and make sure the parts look as they should, i.e. nothing flat out broke.
If something simply came undone, well the diagram outlines the parts numbers.

Honestly you shouldn't be fixing this yourself, if you just bought it, KWA has a warranty dissasembley by yourself or anyone other than KWA will void the warranty. You're best bet is contacting KWA directly.

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

I know how to fix your problem and have taken some pictures to guide you through the process. It is pretty straight forward all you have to do is get the order of assembly right.





With the two photos below are showing is me hooking the charging handle in and pushing it through. Start at a seep angle and start angling it up to get it in place, then just push it through.

















You want to slide the whole assembly into the gun, just align the stock rails and then the bolt and it all should slide in. Then replace the pins taking note of aligning the little springs jutting out with the small groves in the pin holes.

I hope this helps, I'm sure it will.

P.S. Triggs don't be so hard on him, his pics were good enough for me to figure out how to solve his issue. I'm very good at figuring things like this out.

This is also a simply fixed issue and the way he disassemble it is just standard procedure for maintenance and probably won't void his warranty.

[Ghast]

Wow... I never thought I'd say this to you, but +1 for a well written guide.

[triggs]

Vamp it was specific to if something broke or simply came off. Which the pictures are too small to tell.

KWA Warranty direct from their site

WHAT IS COVERED?
Except as specified below, this Warranty covers all defects in material and workmanship in KWA products occurring during the above warranty periods. The following are not covered by the Warranty: (1) Any product which is not imported and distributed in the U.S.A. by KWA USA. (2) Any products which is not purchased in the U.S.A. from an KWA AUTHORIZED RESELLER.(Note: KWA AUTHORIZED RESELLER can be identified by KWA AUTHORIZED RESELLER sticker displayed in the sotres. If you are uncertain as to whether a dealer is a KWA AUTHORIZED RESELLER, please contact KWA USA as listed below). (3) Damaged deterioration or malfunction resulting from: a) Accident, act of nature, abuse, misuse, neglect, unauthorized product repair, opening of or modification or failure to follow instructions supplied with the product. b) Repair of attempted repair by anyone not authorized by KWA USA. (4) Use of the product outside the U.S.A. (5) Damaged batteries or improper use of bullets (BBs), or non approved propellants. (6) Use in industrial, commercial, and/or professional applications.

WHAT WE WILL PAY FOR
If during the applicable warranty period from the date of original consumer purchase your KWA product is found to be defective by KWA USA, KWA USA will repair, or at its option, replace with new, used, or equivalent model, such defect product without charge for parts or labor.

(3) specifically covers that the warranty does not cover owners opening their products. If sent in companies inspect for signs of tampering. If found they will usually void the warranty and send it back unfixed.

Ironically it's necessary to open it to maintain it so neglect does not happen. Which voids the warranty...

[Nexus]

rodrick,

We do not delete threads when people find answers here. That way, if someone has the same problem you did, they can find the solution by searching and coming here.

*Reinstated a thread title.*

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

Mar 20, 2011 20:52:16 GMT -5 triggs said:

Ironically it's necessary to open it to maintain it so neglect does not happen. Which voids the warranty...

I know, it makes no sense.

Thanks for +1 Ghast I appreciate the gesture, but I don't think it matters because my karma is really low. My outburts of inteligence and helpfulness go unoticed because I say stupid things a lot. It's just like this for me in real life too. It is my curse.

I think I should just continue to make my slidshow and turn it a real guide. Apparently rodrick figured it out while I was making it, so I kinda just wasted 20 mininutes on it.

[rodrick]

Not only is that the EXACT same way I did it, but this thread got accelerated to God-teir while I was having snacks!

Mar 20, 2011 21:21:15 GMT -5 Nexus said:

rodrick,

We do not delete threads when people find answers here. That way, if someone has the same problem you did, they can find the solution by searching and coming here.

*Reinstated a thread title.*

Thanks Man, I was going to do that any way, but I just came back from snacks!

[triggs]

Mar 20, 2011 21:23:44 GMT -5 Vampyre (Immortal) said:

Mar 20, 2011 20:52:16 GMT -5 triggs said:

Ironically it's necessary to open it to maintain it so neglect does not happen. Which voids the warranty...

I know, it makes no sense.

Oh no it makes perfect sense if you think about it.

KWA isn't out there to honor a warranty and loose money. They are out to make you buy a new one so they get more money. Just like any other company.

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

Mar 20, 2011 22:02:51 GMT -5 triggs said:

Mar 20, 2011 21:23:44 GMT -5 Vampyre (Immortal) said:

I know, it makes no sense.

Oh no it makes perfect sense if you think about it.

KWA isn't out there to honor a warranty and loose money. They are out to make you buy a new one so they get more money. Just like any other company.

I understand that, but logically for normal folks it makes no sense. It is backwards logic.

Why did you have to -1 me for that? The +1 I got from ghast was very precious to me and you just destroyed my hopes and dreams by taking it away.

[triggs]

Wasn't me this time. Apparently other people don't agree with your posts.

Anyways that's off topic, and rather so is this.
It's not about logic, or help, it's profit. Pure and simple profit. KWA stands to loose money not gain money by replacing (at their expense mind you) damaged parts. Not to mention they can never be sure if it was their quality control/defect or someone else's tampering that caused it to break.

Now if you do want to consider it logically we can look at it that way.
Logically if the gun broke due to a manufacturing defect or design flaw then KWA is morally, ethically, and legally obligated to work out a solution, whether it be fixing the product or refunding.
Take the KWA M9 PTP series. Right after the first batch, the second batch suffered from a design flaw in the blow back mechanism that caused the slide to jam up and render the pistol worthless. KWA covered this issue without question (even those outside of their 45 day warranty I might add).
Logically it was their fault, logically they fix it.

Now onto their indemnity clause found in their warranty.
Now let's say you disassemble their product, and unknowingly damage something, or even worse willingly damage something, and the gun breaks. Is it still logical for KWA to pay for repairs if there's even a remote chance you might have done something to cause the breakdown?
Logically you broke it (even unknowingly), you should pay for it (aka the Pro shop where they charge out out the tailpipe for replacement parts).

Logically there is no reason for KWA to take that kind of risk. Profitability says absolutely no. From a business standpoint it's a poor risk.

See the train of thought here?

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

You didn't have to explain it to me. I already understood it.