My Load-out Updated with MarPat Loadout

[Relarz]

Bb gun tag bores the fuck out of me. Thats why I don't play it. So I guess if you're content with mediocrity, then by all means, buy shitty equipment.

[a1 (Babez)]

Nov 21, 2010 20:24:13 GMT -5 Vampyre (Immortal) said:

I'm not worried about wasting my airsof money, it is just that my money tank for airsoft goes empty after I buy all the other things I want, like the rifle, helmet, tan MP7 holster, Shemagh, ETC. So I'm buying the cross-draw to use until I start getting money from my summer job and I'll have enough for a molle rig and all the accessories I want with my first paycheck and I'll have money to spare.

Whatever floats your boat dude.

Then again I do not think it really matters. I reject your reality and substitute my own.

[Legionnaire]

A nice alternative to a crossdraw would be a chest rig. Cheaper than a full out plate carrier but a tad bit more expensive than a cross draw. Chest rigs will also be better quality. Take a look at these options.

A chest rig will get you out of the "noob" category that has been created by the airsoft society. Gear is not everything but hey, lets be honest, looking good is fun.

OE Tech Chest Rig $20
www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7090

My personal favorite. Pantac 1961a Chest rig $85. Now it is more expensive but your paying for quality.
www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7105

Anyway, my advice would be just to look around at other options besides the crossdraw. There are more cheap options out there than you may know.

[Alex-(BM_5)]

I saw that OE chest rig and I am not a fan It looks big and sorta clunky.

[Legionnaire]

Nov 27, 2010 9:32:25 GMT -5 Alex-(BM_5) said:

I saw that OE chest rig and I am not a fan It looks big and sorta clunky.

I had one when I was first getting into the game. I had no problems with it. It wouldn't be my first choice but if you don't want to dish the coin and just need something to help you get on the green team it will do.

[Monk]

Vamp, I'm not gonna be real nice about this but I am gonna be blunt 100% with you, all I've seen from this thread are your excuses about why not to get decent gear. If you're really serious about wanting to get into this hobby, than you should consider investing in some gear that is gonna last you a long ass time and is gonna hold up to the abuse that a very rough summer MilSim game is gonna deliver.

I'm not gonna rag on your choice of ACU, apart from the fact that I think it's ugly and doesn't work well with the terrain we have here in MI. However, you say you have a MARPAT loadout as well, or are about to purchase one. Why though? When you look at it realistically, you're just dividing up your funds into different places, so you'll end up with two half-ass loadouts, as opposed to one nice one.

A lot of people on these forums harbor a real distaste for Crossdraws, and honestly, I'm one of them. My suggestion is that you put on your Crossdraw, jam it full of all the stuff you're gonna be using in the field and then you hit the ground in a prone position as hard as you possibly can. And when you're done with that, go outside and do it on some rocks or large branches. I guarantee you'll never, ever want to go back to a Crossdraw. In addition to being really uncomfortable for prone and urban prone positions, they take up a lot of valuable retail space on your chest.

See, when you're reloading a weapon, whether it be an AR or a bullpup style weapon, you don't want to remove your hand from the pistol grip because this keeps the weapon up and engaged with the target, as well as keeping your target acquisition quick. Because of the way you hold the rifle, your right hand becomes the weak hand (because it's holding up the rifle) and your left hand becomes your strong hand (because it's free to maneuver across your gear). On a Crossdraw, they put your sidearm right in the most opportune place for your magazines and it forces you to index your mags with your weak hand on your weak side. And why would you want to do that? If you look at the picture underneath, you'll notice that most of his mags are located right where the sidearm is on a crossdraw.



You don't need expensive gear to have nice gear.

www.airsoftsmith.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=31_77&products_id=1638 - Cheap and great. I own this.

www.airsoftsmith.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=31_77&products_id=1967 - Cheap and great.

www.airsoftsmith.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=31_77&products_id=1148 - Cheap and good.

In the world of airsoft, there are really two different kinds of replicas. You can get a wall hanger to satisfy the collectors out there, the people who want to do a 1:1 interpretation of WWII or other historical conflicts. And then there are the replicas to satisfy those of us who like to go out and play the games and do the MilSim events, less so to do a accurate replication, but to play. The ARES is much more of the former. So if you want to actually play the games, then get a damn AEG. If you don't own one, then you're severely limiting the amount of games you can play in. Your age shouldn't be an excuse what you purchase. I myself am 16 and have spent a pretty penny on all the stuff I've acquired in the last few years. It takes time and money, but if you're really serious about it, than you find ways to make money. Have you ever considered maybe raking leaves or shoveling snow? I recall quite a few cold afternoons spent slaving over my neighbors lawns last winter, but ya know I got my ASAP plate and MS2.

And this;

I like the look of the ARES and there are many people on the Airsoft Sniper Proboards that use thee rifle and love it. I will need to get wear parts for it but other than the upgrades I plan to do I shouldn't have any problems with it. Also, a lot of gas sniper rifle owners have converted to HPA rigs and after accuracy upgrades there isn't really a difference in performance between the Tanaka and ARES and they both need to be upgraded the same way, so it's really a matter of personal preference between the two replicas.

is just wrong.

I'm not saying anything that other people haven't said already, and go ahead and spend your money your way, but I'm telling you from experience, the community here is right; we really do have your best interests at heart when we make these suggestions. If nothing, please just consider the things we've all said and be open to advice.

[a1 (Babez)]

Nov 27, 2010 17:52:36 GMT -5 Monk said:

Why though? When you look at it realistically, you're just dividing up your funds into different places, so you'll end up with two half-ass loadouts, as opposed to one nice one.

That my friend, is what needed to be said.

I don't think Vamp attends formal games.

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

Yeah I do play at formal events and I play respectfully and follow the rules. I also play very well with my load-out.

Like I said earlier I'm virtually going to have multiple load-out variations. Tan LBE can be used for both ACU and marpat and I'm getting a molle battle belt rig. I'm going to have multiple good load-outs with my choices.

I apologize if no one is able to see things from my perspective and understand what I truly need my equipment to do, but frankly I don't really care. I like the replica and gear choices I make and I utilize them well. I am a sniper and I like being one. The needs my gear have to fulfill are very specific and until I go get myself a molle rig the only chest rig that comes close to suiting those needs is a cross-draw vest.

I really don't care about the things a lot of you guys have to say especially if you are blatantly disrespectful. I have fun playing the way I do and I play the game well. The only thing that matters is getting enjoyment out of the game. If any of you have to rip on others to get your rocks off instead of respectfully disagreeing with people and giving good respectful advice, then I think you are missing the point of the game...

And the point of the game , both on and off field, is and should always be to HAVE FUN AND BE RESPECTFUL!!!

When advice is poorly and disrespectfully given with a slap in the face it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and I'm sure others feel the same way as well. With all due respect is this what the veteran players teach the new players on the forums, that good players should rudely give advice to other players, that must have been taught to them by you veteran players. I must say I am glad I didn't find this forum when I started playing because I would hate to be that rude. I admit I have had my shouting matches on the forum, but I have matured since then. Now my respectful manner is met with rudeness and it is not right. It seems that since this is the internet people tend to take it lightly, I or anybody else can be ridiculed on the forums, but at events noone treats me or anyone else in the same disrespectful way that is permitted on the forums. It is a double standard and should not be integrated into what we all like to believe as a respectful airsoft community.

[Alex-(BM_5)]

I dont see why you keep entertaining them by replying. I for one like the cross-draw even though it is near useless.

[glassarchitect]

This is the internet...

[Milton]

Hey you are very stubborn and have an illogically working brain. It seems to me that you love starting a fire and then play it off as its not your fault. You know what the forum is about and how everybody acts. This isn't new to you,but you insist on fueling the fires. If you want it to stop show yourself to the door.

[Dr. Steve Brule]

Nov 18, 2010 2:11:18 GMT -5 Great Troub of Troubistan said:

All that hate is gonna burn you up kid...

Red Dawn referance?

[triggs]

Nov 28, 2010 17:20:31 GMT -5 Vampyre (Immortal) said:

Yeah I do play at formal events and I play respectfully and follow the rules. I also play very well with my load-out.

Like I said earlier I'm virtually going to have multiple load-out variations. Tan LBE can be used for both ACU and marpat and I'm getting a molle battle belt rig. I'm going to have multiple good load-outs with my choices.

I apologize if no one is able to see things from my perspective and understand what I truly need my equipment to do, but frankly I don't really care. I like the replica and gear choices I make and I utilize them well. I am a sniper and I like being one. The needs my gear have to fulfill are very specific and until I go get myself a molle rig the only chest rig that comes close to suiting those needs is a cross-draw vest.

I really don't care about the things a lot of you guys have to say especially if you are blatantly disrespectful. I have fun playing the way I do and I play the game well. The only thing that matters is getting enjoyment out of the game. If any of you have to rip on others to get your rocks off instead of respectfully disagreeing with people and giving good respectful advice, then I think you are missing the point of the game...

And the point of the game , both on and off field, is and should always be to HAVE FUN AND BE RESPECTFUL!!!

When advice is poorly and disrespectfully given with a slap in the face it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and I'm sure others feel the same way as well. With all due respect is this what the veteran players teach the new players on the forums, that good players should rudely give advice to other players, that must have been taught to them by you veteran players. I must say I am glad I didn't find this forum when I started playing because I would hate to be that rude. I admit I have had my shouting matches on the forum, but I have matured since then. Now my respectful manner is met with rudeness and it is not right. It seems that since this is the internet people tend to take it lightly, I or anybody else can be ridiculed on the forums, but at events noone treats me or anyone else in the same disrespectful way that is permitted on the forums. It is a double standard and should not be integrated into what we all like to believe as a respectful airsoft community.

Something is clearly missing from this bold and large statement.

If you don't like it leave. No one is keeping you here. Just don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm sure a mod would be more than happy to help you find your way as well.

[Vampyre (Immortal)]

I like MiA I just went a little over board.
This thread actually gave me some useful input, but I posted a confusing statement about the way I am budgeting my airsofting which sort of killed the thread.
I am buying my gear in order. First I bought the rifle, then I bought some other gear including a Tan cross-draw vest, and finally when I start making money again I am going to get my molle rig.

All of my load-outs are coming together nicely, but the way they are coming together was simply something I should of kept to myself.

I am growing as an airsoft player and want to be a useful member of the community, but I went over board. I have no regrets from my actions, but I am learning from my mistakes. I am just taking this internet stuff too seriously and that is one of my downfalls. I can't make everyone happy and in trying to patch things up in my posts I just made a deeper hole for myself.

At least I don't have a load-out like This guy.
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That's my older brother with the skull bandana he is a total noob, but a lot of the input I can't use for myself because of my sniper role can and will be used for his load-outs. He will be playing airsoft with me this summer and I will help him make a good load-out and I promise it will not include any cross-draw vests.

So, I am here to stay. Where else could I go, I live in Michigan.

[spartan2B]

Am I the only that noticed he had three guns in one loadout? Little overboard, a loadout is not all of your guns.