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Post by pjlmaster on Mar 16, 2008 14:47:14 GMT -5
Also, I can see tempers starting to flare here. Everyone, please be sure to keep it civil. Let's not have this turn into a flame war. yea, i dont see keeping it civil being a huge problem, however at the same time, no one likes being accused of things either.
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Post by O'Dwah on Mar 16, 2008 14:47:46 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for their input, hopefully someone had a good time.
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Post by pjlmaster on Mar 16, 2008 14:50:17 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for their input, hopefully someone had a good time. i still enjoyed it, and it was my first event ever which helped a lot, there was just some confusion that took away from it for most people. I heard one of your members talking about putting up caution tape along the tree line for the boundary after i mentioned someone was right next to the road, which is a great idea actually, and maybe put some around the trees in the back so we know where the field ends just past the bridge for any future games.
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Post by O'Dwah on Mar 16, 2008 14:51:47 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for their input, hopefully someone had a good time. i still enjoyed it, and it was my first event ever which helped a lot, there was just some confusion that took away from it for most people. I heard one of your members talking about putting up caution tape along the tree line for the boundary after i mentioned someone was right next to the road, which is a great idea actually, and maybe put some around the trees in the back so we know where the field ends just past the bridge for any future games. Heh, that was me, and I wanted that up before the game even started.
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Post by Dingo™ on Mar 16, 2008 14:59:16 GMT -5
Well, as many have said, there were several key areas in which improvement is needed, but when isn't there? All in all, I had a pretty good time. The field has a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to see it develop.
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Post by Mirage on Mar 16, 2008 15:09:03 GMT -5
wow, a lot to respond too, but im just going to keep it short.
constructive criticism I can take, which is what some guys have done, others have not.
Sky, the event was planned and hosted by me. I delegated responsibilities to the members of the team. You should have spoken to me if you had a problem. Also, to clear up some confusion... RAGE is run by me, plain and simple. Doc is a teammate, just like Mosin, Oakey, Livonia, Blindshot, and Tex. MOA is run by Doc, and we at RAGE are not employees of his, but just friends who will try to help his business... I hope this clears up some confusion on that issue. So when it said that it was run by RAGE, that meant headed by me, while I delegated responsibilities to my teammates. Also, Sky, about the kid and the food, that wasnt criticism.
About me not being able to take criticism and pointing fingers... when did I do that? I said in my first post, plain and simple, I take responsibility, it was my fault, I am sorry, and im looking for more ways to improve it.
Punisher... Doc wasnt the one to post it originally... I was, so dont know where you thought that.
About the lakeshore guys, you want me to say it, I will. 1) Not calling hits - I literally shot 5 of you guys in one game, where I was using Tex's APS with a scope, watched your guys flinch, look around, then hide behind a tree. 2) disregard for the rules - I shot one player, he called it, then walked backwards 5 yards, counted to like 10, then just walked back in behind his friends next to him. Also, I have confirmation that you guys were stating that you blatantly werent calling your hits, and it was stated: because this is the last game we are going to be here, and at the last games of our own hosted events, this is how we do it. Where we dont clal our hits and just shoot around. Also, with you guys camping the Silo, I know how it was being done. You guys had medics just sitting there and healing your guys after they were shot. I also heard that you guys thought the respawn was too far away, so you just didnt want to walk there. There was one respawn point per team. In fact, I was almost at your respawn during the first game, but was shot and had to take the entre SAS team back to the staging area, as it was our respawn.
EDIT: and about SAS not calling their hits... pretty sure that didnt happen. I know there was one incident where you thought you shot one of our guys, but I was right next to him and your BB's hit the tires around him... so you probably saw a ricochet off of the rubber tires.
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Post by Crazyman™ on Mar 16, 2008 15:20:12 GMT -5
I don't want this to turn into a flame war or start problems between us all, I just thought some issues should be addressed in hopes that the next game goes smoother. I hope to attend some in the future. As I said previously, the field has lots of potental and RAGE is a great group of guys. As long as the safety issues are addressed and things are run more promptly, I'd gladly make it out again. I always love playing with RAGE and all my west coast buddies that I don't see that often, so it's not like it's my last game out there. I'd also like to state again that I didn't mean anything I said in a an offensive tone. It's all honesty and meant with respect for both the hosts and the game. And, Mosin, you're right there wasn't a group announcement about the 1 minute to briefing, I think it was Mirage that walked by me and a group of guys and said " one minute to briefing ", so for the confusion there, I apologize. I just assumed he was walking through and telling everyone. All in all, I had fun when I was on the field shooting, and off the field hanging with buddies. I'm sure it will be better at the next one. No hard feelings and I'll see a lot of you at the next game. I got to meet some cool guys that I haven't met before such as Arc, HotCarl, Blag, Bikerted and his bro, Yinyang08, and a few others that I'm sure I can't remember due to old age and lack of sleep. And, of course, all the guys that I've shot with before. So, let's get back to being chill with one another and have some fucking fun! On a lighter note: I almost had Tex pissed and ready to bounce someone from the field. I walked up to TEX and told him I had a problem with a racist player on the field and I wanted him ejected from the game... ;D Tex was like really?? ok, who? At that point, I threw the one and only, asian Asshat, Psychosis under the bus and told Tex that he said he hated asians... Tex looked at me, looked at Psychosis and laughed. I thought it was funny that the sad fucker thought I was serious until I told him it was another asian who said it. ;D Irony... I have nothing else to say All in fun.
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Post by pjlmaster on Mar 16, 2008 15:26:31 GMT -5
Personally, and as i stated before, i didnt get hit all day other then gun hits and ricochets, but im glad you literally shot us, instead of only figuratively doing it I think the person who got hit the stood there and came back out after a second was randy, and he headed off the field to get some grub, because if that was him, i was in the same area and he said not to worry about healing him for that reason. I believe he said, that they/we do that on our Sunday games sometimes for the last game. I heard it first hand, and there was nothing about doing it that game, so don't get it misconstrued somehow. well, both of lake shores medics were there, that part is correct, however neither of us were healing people as they walked back, and there werent any other medics around the silo at the time. All my 6 revives from the first game were made up in the corner of the field that looks down towards the silo. the other medic, woody, to my knowledge had 2 revives (not many people were calling for medics though, which was kinda frustrating) one of which was right at the beginning of the game, and then another after i pushed out with a group. Most of my time spent at the objective was spent fiddling with my thigh holster while sitting on a tree Well the respawn was too far away IMO, but thats already been discussed, however as ive said, the lake shore guys at the silo, had been there the whole time, not getting hit, not seeing anything that wasnt a hundred yards off, just standing there shooting the shit.
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Post by tomhanks1124 on Mar 16, 2008 15:29:31 GMT -5
No I like to say, there where players that walked that long walk. This is what they said.... " 10 minute walk to respawn. !0 minutes at respawn. 10 minute walk back. Half hour of game time they didn't get to play. And in a few cases.....Shot as soon as they just got done with the half hour ordeal. I just think it's to big of a field to just have two respawn. A shuddle service or something....
When we(Lakeshore) host an event four out of the five or none of the XO's will play in the event. And we'll have safety officers out on the field that are players, that will rotate game to game in play and out. And then a few more players that want to sit out and be safety officers can rotate in. I just didn't see any safety officers. If there was, they didn't wear the right vest.
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Post by operatordoc01 on Mar 16, 2008 15:31:22 GMT -5
Crazy... I do want to thank you for your insight... We will make sure everything is good to go for the next one. Thanks again.
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Post by Big Boss on Mar 16, 2008 15:35:31 GMT -5
No I like to say, there where players that walked that long walk. This is what they said.... " 10 minute walk to respawn. !0 minutes at respawn. 10 minute walk back. Half hour of game time they didn't get to play. And in a few cases.....Shot as soon as they just got done with the half hour ordeal. I just think it's to big of a field to just have two respawn. A shuddle service or something..... Honestly, if your too lazy to walk, to WALK! to your respawn, then you should not be in airsoft, airsoft is not the lazy mans sport, GOLF is. For gods sake man your walking not running.
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Post by Mosin on Mar 16, 2008 15:48:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the awesome pictures X, I think I found a few new pictures to add to my photobucket. Nicely done. Whoever the guy was with the Flakjaks, that stayed late and followed RAGE around for that final game, please post your stuff up ASAP, I'm dieing to see those amazing pictures -Mosin
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Post by kojak on Mar 16, 2008 16:15:46 GMT -5
Hey Big Boss- A 30 minute respawn is a bit much, it is not about being lazy....
Also, I better not see another negative post from any Lakeshore member in this forum. You have had your chance to say how you feel now drop it, all you are doing is giving the team a bad name, and I have worked way too hard to give this team a good name.
That is all..........................
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Post by Ghast on Mar 16, 2008 16:30:04 GMT -5
On a lighter note: I almost had Tex pissed and ready to bounce someone from the field. I walked up to TEX and told him I had a problem with a racist player on the field and I wanted him ejected from the game... ;D Tex was like really?? ok, who? At that point, I threw the one and only, asian Asshat, Psychosis under the bus and told Tex that he said he hated asians... Tex looked at me, looked at Psychosis and laughed. I thought it was funny that the sad fucker thought I was serious until I told him it was another asian who said it. ;D Irony... I have nothing else to say All in fun. OH MAN! I would've been so scared for Al, If Tex hadn't paused a sec I would've been so shocked to hear Psy getting the boot. You had me going there, I have nothing else to say.
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Post by toboggan on Mar 16, 2008 17:05:32 GMT -5
Quite frankly im pissed, the games werent organized, and now i have to hear all this crap, and bashing on my team (lakeshore) so if somebody wants to step up and PM me so i dont have to wade through a bunch of shit posts, please do! Im really cool with doc, he has helped me, and my team out greatly! so please, someone PM me on here or lakeshore forum! Thanks! I did have fun thought the last game, getting to shoot every one!
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