Operation: Winter's Fury - 3/15/08

[strangerdanger]

wow dude complain more really though next time host your own. wow your so pro u called me a noob im really hurt. wow Kid

[pjlmaster]

strangerdanger said:

wow dude complain more really though next time host your own. wow your so pro u called me a noob im really hurt. wow Kid

None of the posts were meant to be insulting to R.A.G.E at all, just constructive criticism. Personally, I think doc is someone to look up to in airsoft, and mosin is a pretty good guy too from talking to him on xfire, playing a map of CoD w/ him and meeting him today, albeit very briefly.

[Crazyman™]

First off, if you READ my post, I did thank Rage. Also, if the games are to progress to a higher caliber, they need honest feedback. I'm not saying it totally sucked, but it definitely needs work.

Was this your first game, strangerdanger?? Let me guess, you've been playing for less than a year and you're happy to get any trigger time?

If you want to hit some GREAT games, and not just mediocre games, give them the proper feedback so they can make the next one BETTER. Simple.

I wasn't bashing Rage, and I'd hope they don't take it that way. They know we're all buddies and it's only for the love of the games.

I forgot I didn't even mention the countless WOODLAND guys that were removing goggles on the field or the numerous guys in full tac-gear and guns not only walking down the road, but shooting from it as well...

Farmland or not, let's use some common sense people.

[pjlmaster]

jfoland said:

First off, if you READ my post, I did thank Rage. Also, if the games are to progress to a higher caliber, they need honest feedback. I'm not saying it totally sucked, but it definitely needs work.

Was this your first game, strangerdanger?? Let me guess, you've been playing for less than a year and you're happy to get any trigger time?

If you want to hit some GREAT games, and not just mediocre games, give them the proper feedback so they can make the next one BETTER. Simple.

I wasn't bashing Rage, and I'd hope they don't take it that way. They know we're all buddies and it's only for the love of the games.

I forgot I didn't even mention the countless WOODLAND guys that were removing goggles on the field or the numerous guys in full tac-gear and guns not only walking down the road, but shooting from the it as well...

Farmland or not, let's use some common sense people.

I'll admit, i adjusted my goggles a time or two to let some cool air in, but i didnt take them off I have nothing else to say.

Ya, the guy on the road was retarded, beyond words. Someone told me he tripped and fell out there, however when i came close to the road (10 yards or so) and looked out, he was crouched on the side of the road, then went prone and started trying to shoot at me, this was after he walked up it a while. "Fell" HAH!

[strangerdanger]

no dude ive play for a long time I have nothing else to say. and i understand u trying to make it better but the food was a great thing for them to do. and if they dont charge 1 price will you be the one to figure out who payed what. there a difference bettween helpful comments and complaining. but whatever its your opinon i have no say over it but Great time rage I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. hold more

[Talisman]

strangerdanger, I trust I make myself clear when I say you won't post in this thread anymore.

And please, capitalize and use some form of proper grammar. We here at MiA appreciate your co-operation.

[2nd LT. RedGunn]

strangerdanger said:

well i had fun it was a big game and it was need to all the complaining thats going on really if you dont like it keep it to your self or just hold I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. own stuff. they had food games and help. not everthing has to be perfect you no we play airsoft for the fun of it and it seems like some people forget that. so really guys y not just thank the people that have the land and take the time to give you complainers a place to play. To Rage thanks guys had fun even though i broke 3 guns I have nothing else to say. was all good im going to be at next game u hold. O and Go cover and I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. tatcial nap woot woot.

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I completely agree with almost all of what was said. When you drive 2.5 hours and pay $25 to not be satisfied with my airsoft experience. Were not just complaining, were trying to help them make their new field better. I understand that this field is new, its going to have its quirks. But some of what went on today and what was posted was a bit ridiculous. It just felt like their was no organization, the game was supposed to start at 11:00, it begin more around 1:00. When I come to someones field, I am customer, and I expect to be treated as a customer. I want to get what I pay for. The down time would be perfectly acceptable if it was a game with a group of just friends/team-mates. But this was an Op, and the amount of down time was simply ridiculous.

Nothing aganist any RAGE members or MOA staff. You are cool guys, just some things that can be improved on. Thanks for having us out...

[pjlmaster]

redgunn said:

strangerdanger said:

well i had fun it was a big game and it was need to all the complaining thats going on really if you dont like it keep it to your self or just hold I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. own stuff. they had food games and help. not everthing has to be perfect you no we play airsoft for the fun of it and it seems like some people forget that. so really guys y not just thank the people that have the land and take the time to give you complainers a place to play. To Rage thanks guys had fun even though i broke 3 guns I have nothing else to say. was all good im going to be at next game u hold. O and Go cover and I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. tatcial nap woot woot.

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I completely agree with almost all of what was said. When you drive 2.5 hours and pay $25 to not be satisfied with my airsoft experience. Were not just complaining, were trying to help them make their new field better. I understand that this field is new, its going to have its quirks. But some of what went on today and what was posted was a bit ridiculous. It just felt like their was no organization, the game was supposed to start at 11:00, it begin more around 1:00. When I come to someones field, I am customer, and I expect to be treated as a customer. I want to get what I pay for. The down time would be perfectly acceptable if it was a game with a group of just friends/team-mates. But this was an Op, and the amount of down time was simply ridiculous.

Nothing aganist any RAGE members or MOA staff. You are cool guys, just some things that can be improved on. Thanks for having us out...

I actually thought the field was spectacular, although there are thorns effing EVERYWHERE, and it woulda been better with a bit more greenery. But the lay of the land in there, just wow!

[2nd LT. RedGunn]

I to agree, the field was amazing. Once its developed some more (clean out some thorn bushes, buildings, etc.) it'll be a spectacular field. I wasn't at all dissatisfied with the field, just how it was ran is what I was getting at.

[pjlmaster]

Yea, I know, i just thought the field was awesome enough to mention again.

[Tex]

I want you all to know that we understand your frustrations. We too (RAGE) were not very pleased at how things went. Some was in our control and was due to lack of organization, some was people blatantly ignoring rules in the briefings. There is a lot of potential at the field and I assure you things will improve.

We appreciate all of your input, really, we do. And I thank you for the constructive criticism, I'll be sure that Mirage reads it so that he knows what he can do better when he runs his next OP. Our most recent OPs have been much better than this, and our future ones will improve. I personally will be taking a more active role in making sure things go smoothly in the upcoming events.

Also. Anyone seen walking in the road, please, immediately tell them to get the hell back on the field and then Radio someone in charge. Anyone else seen on the road will be immediately ejected from the game, no questions, no exceptions. That was the most foolish thing anyone could have done. And there is no excuse for it.

Again, thank you all for your input, we much appreciate it. And I can't wait for the pictures to be up. Also, it was great dicking around with all of you, regardless of how the game went. Met a lot of newer guys, glad y'all could make it out.

[X]

Well, for starters, I pretty much agree with the majority of posts on this thread (regarding constructive criticism). My one complaint is that we pay for food and we get mac and cheese?. It was good mac and cheese, but I'm thinking more along the lines of hot dogs (anything with some protein), or like it's been said reduce price and tell everyone where the nearest McDonald's is. I had a good time and after some improvements I would attend another game. Like it's been said though, I don't really like driving 300 miles round trip and having a lot of down time. Also during the second to last game, what was with the woodland guys (just a few) saying they don't have to call their hits because it was the last game? I don't understand the logic in that. All things considered, it was fun.

Pictures will be up soon. Seems like I got mostly Govt. Sorry woodland . There's still some good woodland shots in there. However with there only being 150 pictures taken total I'm sure theres a lot of people who don't have any pictures of them, sorry, it's very hard to keep track of 100 people and try and get a picture of everyone. Pictures will probably be up tomorrow or late Monday.

If anyone talks to Wiece (sp?) tell him I need those pictures I took off his camera they turned out awesome.

Well everybody... Thanks for the good times, but I'm exausted... it's time to sleep

[infidel (Immortal Detroit)]

sounds like the new field's pretty kickass....wish I could have been there. =/ Anyway. just gonna throw my two cents in. Crazyman...good job speaking up. honestly. You may, in some people's eye's be complaining, but it's good that you speak up. Cause now RAGE can look into changing things a bit to keep players comming back. If people didnt speak up when they didnt like things they'd stop comming and RAGE wouldn't know why they were losing players. I'd do the same if I disliked an event. good job.

Really wish i coulda made it today though....=( payed higher shipping this week to have my scope on time too....

[pjlmaster]

cgyarring said:

I want you all to know that we understand your frustrations. We too (RAGE) were not very pleased at how things went. Some was in our control and was due to lack of organization, some was people blatantly ignoring rules in the briefings. There is a lot of potential at the field and I assure you things will improve.

We appreciate all of your input, really, we do. And I thank you for the constructive criticism, I'll be sure that Mirage reads it so that he knows what he can do better when he runs his next OP. Our most recent OPs have been much better than this, and our future ones will improve. I personally will be taking a more active role in making sure things go smoothly in the upcoming events.

Also. Anyone seen walking in the road, please, immediately tell them to get the hell back on the field and then Radio someone in charge. Anyone else seen on the road will be immediately ejected from the game, no questions, no exceptions. That was the most foolish thing anyone could have done. And there is no excuse for it.

Again, thank you all for your input, we much appreciate it. And I can't wait for the pictures to be up. Also, it was great dicking around with all of you, regardless of how the game went. Met a lot of newer guys, glad y'all could make it out.

I think the ignoring the rules from the briefings and walkthrough were just unclear is all. I mean guerrillas only had one spawn on the opposite side of the field, and just to clarify, all the people standing at the silo, were lakeshore people who hadnt been shot that were actually defending the objective. We finally left near the end of the first game to actually get a bit of action.

[Andy]

Thanks X for this great shot! Its the best one I got!!!!