Is it bad to be a sniper with no gillie suit?

[bobthefluffer]

I was just wondering if it is a good idea to be a sniper without a gillie suit.

[BoredKender]

if you have to ask, then you should reconsider the sniper role. it takes serious dedication to the sport as a whole, and even more to the role itself

no that doesnt mean that you NEED a ghillie, but at the same time, you should consider every angle very thoroughly BEFORE taking up the role

[Zorak]

It's bad to be a sniper with or without a gillie suit.

[Яoman]

If you dont have a ghillie suit your mainly considered a Dedicated Marksman or Sharpshooter. I have a Ghillie Suit, a slightly upgraded Maruzen APS-2 SV, and I am dedicated to the role but I still consider myself a Dedicated Marksman. I think the title of Sniper is one earned not bought with gear and a rifle. Is it possible to be a Sniper without a Ghillie? I suppose. Is it bad? Yes. Its really the next step up from dedicated Marksman. A Ghillie isnt worn by a sniper simple because it it makes them a sniper, they wear it because it helps break up the human outline and they can natural vegetation to it to narrow down the chances of being spotted, to look like the rest of the forest JUST so they can make that extra shot or two to even the odds.

Sniping is over-glorified in movies, video games, and all the other kinds of media. People automatically assume people are snipers because they take one shot to eliminate a target and carry a bolt action rifle. If thats the case then every hunter is considered a sniper. As Kender stated a Sniper is a person who is dedicated to the sport and more importantly dedicated to the role of a Sniper. They dont do as much as real Scout/Snipers do by doing ballistics equations, shooting from over 300yards away, or making a hide to stay in one position for up to 12+ hours. They are still dedicated to the role and do more than the minimum to make it as realistic as possible even if it means those few extra bucks on the rifle, or optics, or even just gear here and there.

This is just my take on this subject.

[The Bush]

You actually don't need one all the time imo. In desert like areas with a lot less bushes and trees as a forest, I think just tan clothes would do fine.. but do you need one if your going to be a sniper? That depends how good you can hide and stay hidden. Experiment when you play and then ask yourself.

[JihadJake]

I agree with Zorak...

zorak said:

It's bad to be a sniper with or without a gillie suit.

A Ghille suit can be a great thing, it can protect by making you damn near invisible. But that could also be a downfall, a group of men could be walking through the woods and accidently trip over you while you are trying to cover your advancing squad.

[Zorak]

That's not at all what I meant. I'm just sick of snipers. Sniping is great fun for the skillful, but being shot at by an enemy too far away for you to shoot back isn't fun. Being shot before you ever got into a proper battle isn't fun. Reading posts from new players who want to be snipers has already become a cliche - what does that tell you? Everyone wants to shoot the god gun and nobody wants to get shot. Personally, I think it would be more fun overall if 410fps was the absolute limit for all players and we dropped the entire notion of sniping.

This isn't a personal thing - I think I'm on very good terms with GK's snipers and I have no particular quarrel with guys like Livonia and Mosin. It's just my opinion about what makes airsoft fun.

[JihadJake]

I hear what your saying Zorak.

It is actually pretty funny how many people watch Shooter and think they just got out of Scout Sniper Training.

I was thinking about being a sniper for a while, but i would have to get into the battle at sometime. I don't like the fact of sitting still and not seeing any action, but that doesn't mean I'm going to run out in the middle of a firefight and waste a whole clip.

But all the would be snipers should at least take into account that you should have some basic skills before considering being a "sniper", like being able to tell wind speed, distance, and know every aspect of your gun.

By aspects you should take in account, the max affective distance, the muzzle velocity, how it works (internals), how to take it apart and clean it, even the guns weight comes into play. Its gonna be hard to run around in full camo with 3 1/2 ft 12lbs sniper rifle.

[frostee]

My opinion, ghillie's are hot, bulky, they get caught in thickets and branches easily, they snap twigs you didn't intend to snap... in short, they're useless on the airsoft field unless you've got time to move into position before the game starts.

Think of what you really want to do before you step on the field. Do you want to lie in wait for your enemy, or move quickly on their positions? Do you want to sit by yourself (or with a spotter) or move with your squad, providing long-range support?

If you've got the kind of mentality that allows you to sit in one spot for extended periods of time, while everyone else runs around shooting willy nilly, then a ghillie might work for you. If not, I'd leave the ghillie to others. To me, almost nothing is easier to spot than a dude wearing a sasquatch suit, twice as large as life, trying to creep through the woods. Airsoft just doesn't allow the contact distances necessary for effective ghillie use.

[bobthefluffer]

You guys (and maybe gals) have opened my eyes so to speak. Now that I read all of your reviews I have realized that i don't want to be a sniper sounds too boring to me.

[JihadJake]

I have always been satisfied with BDU's.

I went paintballing in for my cousins Birthday last october, I wore a Brown T-shirt and Desert camo BDU pants.

It worked like a charm!! I ghosted 4 guys(out of a 6 man team) while i was hiding in a patch of picker bushes.

[frostee]

bobthefluffer said:

You guys (and maybe gals) have opened my eyes so to speak.

He must be talking about you Zorak. ;D

[JihadJake]

bobthefluffer said:

You guys (and maybe gals) have opened my eyes so to speak. Now that I read all of your reviews I have realized that i don't want to be a sniper sounds too boring to me.

Hey hey hey, don't get your hopes down.

Im trying to pull your mind out of the "Cinema Sniper" role, and make you a more practical marksman.

You could be a sniper by all means, but you should try it before you decide to go Full on.

[iketheshalacker]

Technically speaking he wouldn't NEED a ghillie to be a sniper. It all depends on the enviroment. Woodland areas, yes, areas with lots of undergrowth or weeds, yes. Urban? Heck no. Some games are played in areas with multiple buildings, almost small towns. In areas like that you just need to be stealthy, silent and make sure you've got a good sidearm or better yet a small SMG or machine pistol in case someone gets close. Honestly being a sniper entails more than just shooting someone from long range while wearing the classic ghillie suit. SWAT snipers usually just wear black or urban camo when they're deployed in urban environments. The best rule of thumb is to not worry about your camo unless you're also taking into account where you will be playing. And not to play off of the movie Shooter, as Jihad Jake already meantioned, but there's a quote in the deleted scenes where Swagger makes a comment to Memphis when Memphis is looking for BDUs in "his size", Swagger tells him that you choose your camo once you get there. That's one of the keys to being a sniper, just learning how to camo yourself in any environment.

In other words the answer to your question is no, not if you're playing in urban terrain or someplace without vegetation. But in most places a ghillie does aid in concealment quite a bit, I've used one before and it's amazing how easily you can hide, even in broad daylight.