Rapelling gear.

[SWAT A4]

Are there any restrictions to wearing repelling gear, to slide across creeks? Hook up a zip line, and just slide accross? I'm not talking cheap stuff, I mean if you buy actual military ceritfied stuff... Do fields allow it??

Not sure where to put this thread, so I just stuck it here.

[Great Troub of Troubistan]

Its hard to say, all fields will allow different things.

[SWAT A4]

Need I say more...









THis field is much more dense at a diff time of year, the bridges get secured very well, and especially at night... people sit under them, and landmines and everything.... We could just zip accross on a rope, just need to be smart about it all, buying the right gear, and double checking everything..... so no one goes for a swim.

[Toothbrush]

I wouldn't see a resriction on the gear itself as I would setting up such a system.

If such a system is not already in place, you may damage the existing surroundings (whatever you attach a line to, etc).

Additionally, it is an increase in risk. Granted you arn't climbing Everest, but you can hurt yourself.

I don't know how experience you are in this kind of thing but I am not sure how fisable it would be if the line(s) are not already in place.

If you have any other questions let me know. I am going on my third year of being a certified climbing instructor for the BSA. I could probably help you out.

Edit in respose to SWAT's 2nd post: I would really prefer and suggest a harness over a (riggers?) belt.

[SWAT A4]

Yeah, they have 2 kinds, the harness would be safer, but restricts movement a lot..... but I'm not thinking about just running and jumping accross. I'm thinking about wrapping your legs around and pulling yourself.... I have been rock climbing for years, (indoor places) that's the experience I have, It's vertical movement, and this is horizontal, but it's the same concept pretty much. Just gotta use the belt right, not stand vertically, but slide accross on your back.


As for damaging tree's.... Nothing would be damaged, if you damage a tree, there's a bigger problem to worry about then, because your most likely in the water if that happens. I know climbing structures and tree's is illegal.... just.. not sure about sliding....


At night we'd have plenty of time..... So we could send our rifles accross first, so we don't drop those... A local field, we can use this at, I just dont want to invest in all of this without being able to use it anywhere else..... There's 2 sides of land, no bridge.. other than a HUGE downed tree..... A support/guide wire needs to be in place before I ask my team to cross.

[Great Troub of Troubistan]

Actually, what you could do. Is have one of your teamates that doesn't mind getting wet, strip down all of his gear besides his bdu's, boots, and maybe his sidearm (not sure if it could be damaged). Have him swim across with the line attach it, and then cover you with his sidearm and the first guy across brings most of that mans gear with him. Then just pretty much do a frog-leap type thing.

[SWAT A4]

Yeah, We were trying to figure out how to get the first guy accross.. I have nothing else to say... I don't know anyone willing enough to get that wet, because it's 24 hour game, and ah.. that'd be hard.... I think we'd have to sneak one guy accorss that bridge somehow.... 1 guy has a chance of getting accross ..... but.. no guarantee's... they keep getting "blown up" too, so you can't use them a lot.... I was thinking of bringing a very small floating raft/tube..... and a 20oz c02 tank to get one guy accross..... but.... that's not practical I don't think... that seems time consuming. The water is crossable with a rifle, but sidearm is smarter. I don't think you can damage pistols too easily, you just have to clean them out and re lube them when your done.... As long as they arent submerged. But....A Zipbloc back can solve that problem. I know parts are about 4ft deep.. so.... depends... you can walk accross some. ( I could be wrong)


Last time we ended up getting screwed over, every time we cross a bridge, we would get lit up. Snipers would sit in small areas, looking directly down the bridge.... NO 1 one suspect our team to come flying accross on rope.... heh.

[Toothbrush]

It seems to me, at least to do it safely, you will need to set up a line before the game.

Otherwise, it looks like someone is going for a swim

[SWAT A4]

Setting up the line before hand is very smart... No one would think twice about that, no one else will have the gear, I'm just afraid if it's left up, it will be a safety hazard and they will say no.... THinking some kids will climb across or something...... We need to camo it.. make it look like a vine... I have nothing else to say.

Swim doesnt sound good... We need those water pants things.. I forgot what they are called.... the suit you wear like with suspensers, made of rubber to install piers and things like that.



***** Why don't we just buy those ^ instead of all of this fancy rope... we can walk across... assuming we get a more shallow part. I have nothing else to say... Anywho... The home field is much deeper, i'd need rope anyhow.

[abdollar]

It seems that some kind of rubber assault boat or portable pontoon bridge would be better, the banks of the creek would provide defilade. If you were sliding across on a rope, you'd be vulnerable while hanging up in the air. One or two guys might get across, but the rest would be pinatas.

[SWAT A4]

I have nothing else to say. They already are pinata's. If we do it at night... Would be no issues. I'm not worried about people in the air being shot at... Move fast.... Send 3 accross or so..... TO clear the area, leave the rest to cover fire/sniper, then work togethor to free the bridge up... Then lay my claymores around to secure it for safe return and use again

I trust my team with my life, I'm not worried about being shot.

[Great Troub of Troubistan]

I would say get a man who has a big rucksack, and invest on a rubber assault raft.

cgi.ebay.com/WW2-Complete-US-Rubber-Co-Life-Raft-With-Pack-tools_W0QQitemZ6603993400QQcategoryZ4721QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Like that one, that way you could get your men across and then send two guys down the river towards the bridge coordinate the attack, and camouflage the raft. They'd never expect that especially at night. Hell you could freaking float down the river with that, and if you had guys that didnt mind being wet. They could throw their gear in it, and get in the water with their rifles and use it for cover, and camouflage.

or this would work too cgi.ebay.com/MUFFY-VANDERBEAR-INFLATABLE-SWIMMING-POOL-RUBBER-RAFT_W0QQitemZ5664823671QQcategoryZ392QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k)]

Muffy Vanderbear inflatable swimming pool rubber raft shaped like a sea serpent

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[jyrki69]

You could get a raft for $10 at any walmart, it would easly fit into and butt pack-rucksack.or seriously....go tarzan on their ass .

[Great Troub of Troubistan]

Actually, do not take my suggestion it was just merely showing you an idea of what you need. Spend the extra money, on a raft that self-inflates. It will be more high-speed. However, I suggest with whatever you get camouflage paint it to match the water. You'll be surprised at night how hard it is to find.

Andrew, its shaped like a serpent making it fearsome. ;D