scope magnification for stock guns

[Great Troub of Troubistan]

I am just saying on some weapons it is not an option to put a scope for scouting, and for some it is not a convienent choice.

I am just shooting shit, it does not matter what I call a firearm. It does not change anything.

Now, I know it is called suppresive fire, but it is not an effective means of it. If you don't know what you are shooting at you will more than likely not hit shit, and could possibly hit a friendly. So, how is that possibly a good idea. It'll make you live longer ,but it wont solve anything. Now back on subject.

It is my opinion that a scope primarly for scouting is useless, and my opinion alone. I did not reprimand him for having that opinion. Do not so rudely do it to me.

For what its worth, I think that if you have to put some sort of device on it. Put a red-dot or HOLOsight on it. They make target acquisition quicker, and easier.

[Talon]

Whoa! I just was posting an opinion, and these forums are for discussion it's always nice to hear all possible sides.

When I'm outside the wire I personally carry a pair of Nikon Bino's while pulling security. Though if I was going to be doing any fighting house to house, I would probably leave them behind (having shit dangling from your neck along with body armor just complicates things.) If my unit was authorized them I would definately be sporting optics on my rifle, but alas I just have iron sights.

Let's all try to be friendly and avoid any flame wars. We should just be trying to answer the posters question and debating (civily) any points of insight.

[Munin]

IrishJig wrote:
"Now, I know it is called suppresive fire, but it is not an effective means of it. If you don't know what you are shooting at you will more than likely not hit shit, and could possibly hit a friendly. So, how is that possibly a good idea. It'll make you live longer ,but it wont solve anything."

The point of suppressive fire is not to hit anything, and you don't dump it into sectors where friendlies are operating. If you can hit something with suppressive fire, it's just icing on the cake. The point of suppressive fire is that it forces the enemy to take cover. It doesn't need to be accurate, it just needs to be loud and scary, and sometimes random fire is scarier than directed fire (because directed fire is going to a specific place - if I'm not in that place, I know I'm good to go. Random fire affords me no such comfort). And if I hit the deck or seek cover from fire, it affords the teammates of the guy giving the suppression fire the opportunity to move, flank, or advance on me relatively unopposed. Suppression fire and movement by elements has been the cornerstone of US military doctrine since WWII.

During summer months I often use a variable 3-9 power scope on my SR-16. No, it doesn't make my shots any more accurate, and in fact I don't use it when shooting (I still use the iron sights). What it does allow me to do is look more closely at a bush or a stump or a clump of debris and decide if it's really a natural feature or if it's a guy trying to look like a natural feature. In that respect, it's very handy.