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Post by tZ on May 26, 2004 13:47:28 GMT -5
ok i'll try this again, being a lot more specific.
Whats so great about the eotech, etc. holosights that cost $300++?
At OF this moment i am leaning more towards a digital atn.
THANKS
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Post by xaos on May 26, 2004 13:57:42 GMT -5
What's so great about the EOTech?
Well, it's the top of the line. Best of the best, and all that. It comes with a massive set of features (which I'm sure Zorak will be happy to relate). It's also the most common of the holo-style sights used by real operators, so it gets points for authenticity.
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Post by Stratus on May 26, 2004 14:02:21 GMT -5
this should be in the gear and acc. section. i would have to say...... do you really need another $200+ sight for your airsoft gun? sure its not up to me but think about it, what happens when your sight is shot out? like that ever happens . you should be able to find a red dot out there to suit you needs for less than $100 or even cheaper.
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Post by WarmongeR on May 26, 2004 14:10:09 GMT -5
The e o tech uses the same tech as the f16 h.u.d.The recticale is visable in any light,centers automaticly regardless on weapon angle even if part of window is covered with mud or is shattered!cheaper red dots work as good for airsoft though,ill probably get one for my real steel but i dont think i want bbs shot at my 300$ sight.....
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Post by HnD on May 26, 2004 14:18:52 GMT -5
I just got the aimpoint comp M2 for my airsoft put a Killflash on to protect the lens no worry of a .002 cent BB breaking it.
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Post by Zorak on May 26, 2004 15:04:33 GMT -5
My gut feeling is that an airsoft BB won't be enough to shatter the Eotech's window. Even if it does, the Eotech is functional when broken, so I could get by for the day and then complain bitterly to them. Since the company is local, I could just go in and scream at the receptionist until the cops came.
If you do a search for Eotech, you'll find other posts I've made raving about the sight.
As for that ATN - never used that brand myself, but every sight of that design I've ever seen was positively flithy with parallax. Some players feel confident enough about their stance and the repeatability of their cheek weld to live with parallax. I myself never have.
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Post by tZ on May 26, 2004 17:45:15 GMT -5
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Post by HnD on May 26, 2004 17:48:13 GMT -5
That is the same sight.
Hay you edited your first post!
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Post by AHalo on May 26, 2004 18:00:40 GMT -5
parrallax free means that when you moove you head the aiming reticle will stay in the place you zeroed it into.
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Post by xaos on May 26, 2004 20:19:54 GMT -5
If you're going to spend 200 bucks on optics for your airsoft gun, you may as well go all the way and drop the extra hundred for the EOTech.
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Post by tZ on May 26, 2004 21:57:26 GMT -5
whats so great about it. It just looks the same, in box form?
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Post by Zorak on May 26, 2004 23:56:06 GMT -5
I need to find time to put all this stuff into a web page. Basic explanation of parallax: Two points determine a line. With iron sights, you have two- the front and rear sights. With a red dot, you only have one. The line you perceive goes from your eye through the sight and out into the world. Since your head isn't fixed to the weapon's bore (or ought not be, anyway), the line moves. The result is that your point of aim appears to be moving around when your head does, even though the weapon (and thus the actual point of impact) remains fixed. If you really want to see parallax in action, find an Adco Square Shooter somewhere. It has a huge square tube, but absolutely no parallax correction. You can move your head all over the place and watch the dot float around. I bought one once, tried to sight in, and immediately realized what a tool I was. That led me to my current obsession with Eotech and Aimpoint. The Eotech uses holography whereas standard red dot or reflex sights use conventional projection. What I know about holography could be written in crayon on a postage stamp, but I know the effect: The Eotech reticle appears to be floating out in space on top of the target, rather than being projected onto the glass. This has large consequences because parallax is a matter of geometry. If the reticle acts as though it's a very long distance away, you can't move your head around enough to generate significant parallax. At short distances this obviously breaks down - no matter what the holographic projection does, if there's an opaque object an inch from the muzzle, the reticle acts as through it's an inch from the muzzle, and you can work up some parallax. Of course, at those ranges even I ignore the sight and point-shoot, so it's a moot issue. The Aimpoint doesn't use funky holography. It has a patented system of lenses that keep the reflection of the red dot parallel to the internal sight tube under almost all circumstances. The effect is about the same either way. Aimpoint has a little bit about parallax at their web site - see www.aimpoint.com/o.o.i.s/37I like the Eotech over the Aimpoint for a few reasons. It's available in a model that uses AA batteries, which has obvious advantages. It has an automatic shutoff, while the Aimpoint can be left on. It can cover the full range of brightness (night vision compatible to super bright daylight) whereas night-vision compatible Aimpoints wash out in the daytime. Eotech is in Ann Arbor, while Aimpoint is in Sweden. Those are all basically small issues, though, and you'll never have a problem with the performance of either one.
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Post by tZ on May 27, 2004 9:42:12 GMT -5
THANX- i think i may get the eotech, i'm still not sure tho -
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Post by AHalo on May 27, 2004 14:56:07 GMT -5
i see it this way, why spend that much on a scope for an airsoft gun? will it really help your accuracy or aiming? its your money,do what you want but spending as much as a stock TM gun on a scope doesnt seem right.
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Post by Mite on May 27, 2004 15:14:14 GMT -5
I don't have a sexy piece of gear like this yet, but it is on my list.
A-Halo - I can think of lots of reasons to spend so much on a high quality sight for an airsoft gun.
1) Anything that improves accurate target acquisition speed is a good thing! Knowing that the BB's go where the little red cross hair is, regarless of your head position or if you are shooting from your weak side is a real comfort. That is what only these high end pieces provide.
2) Buy one sight like this and you are done. You can only use one gun at a time, so you just move it to whatever gun will be your primary for the day. It is built for real service so it should last and last compared to your airsoft guns. So if you "defer" the cost of the sight over all the other AEG related purchases you may make over the entire time you are involved in airsoft, it will begin to look like a good deal! And at the end of it all I am willing to bet it will still have considerable resale value.
3) Any sight that improves your situational awareness is a worth while investment. Being able to keep both eyes open (which of course can also be done with a cheap red dot sight) is a great thing when the s**t is hitting the fan around you.
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