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Post by Da Vinci - Да Винчи on Nov 24, 2013 11:12:25 GMT -5
Accidents happen. People get hurt quite a bit, especially when they're running about outside around obstacles with tons of gear on and trying not to get pelted with plastic BB's. I've heard my fair share of people getting hurt playing both indoors and out, from quite a variety of reasons. Some more seriously than others:
So that brings me to my question: How many people who attend events are trained in first aid? I see plenty of people with IFAKs at games, but I still wonder how many of them actually have medical supplies inside and how many know how to use them. I, myself, have been trained and certified by the Red Cross to perform first aid, and now carry a good amount of medical supplies and can use them if need be. I know a lot of jobs require training in first aid, and seeing the diversity of people on these boards, makes me think there's at least some who are also trained. So who is?
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Post by voodoo on Nov 24, 2013 11:36:18 GMT -5
I've got the CLS training from basic as well as growing up in the scouts. I've also learned from my mother (former EMT) and my father (retired fire chief). I also run with a fully loaded issued IFAK on my PC.
I say let this be a lesson about situational awareness!
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Post by Shadow (314) on Nov 24, 2013 12:14:37 GMT -5
I've been red cross First aid for professional, Life Guard, and O2 administration certified. While, I'm sure my cards are expired, I'd at least be knowledgeable enough to help someone if I see an injury. And I too carry a good amount of supplies in my kit for when others are hurt as well as a more extensive field kit at the staging area. If you ever are playing with Military vets, they've all gone through some training or another for first aid too. My point is, I'd be willing to bet that if you get hurt at an airsoft game, you'll be surrounded by people that can help if you can get their attention.
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Post by Coldwave on Nov 24, 2013 13:30:52 GMT -5
Learned from my paramedic brother, and I'm currently a nursing student. I don't really carry any medical supplies on me because I'm not that cool but I can put a band aid on your boo boo.
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Post by Deacon on Nov 24, 2013 15:02:54 GMT -5
You can view more here: s1144.photobucket.com/user/Deacon85/library/PJ%20BagNREMT, Paramedic Student. Looking to take a TCCC course in the near future when I can find one that fits my schedule. I've actually had a few incidents I can remember assisting with on-site of games. One guy had a very nice incision from Wrist to first knuckle on thumb. Patched him up, sent to ER. I believe he got 16 stitches. Haven't seen him around MiA or No Limits since. Another guy had Heat Exhaustion set in on him. Water/Electrolytes got him right back on the war path. I'm honestly shocked that this doesn't happen more at our games. Forgot to mention that I carry the Electrolyte powdered drinks and a bunch of other things like instant coffee or caffeinated gum as well. Basicall the little packet of things in the Issued MRE's with the drink pouches. I carry all that in a pouch in my Mayflower UW Gen V.
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Post by Dingo™ on Nov 24, 2013 15:12:01 GMT -5
I've come across a fair amount of people around MiA that are involved in the medical field in some way..
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Post by Coldwave on Nov 24, 2013 16:40:40 GMT -5
I'm noticing not to many RN's though
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Post by Deacon on Nov 24, 2013 17:26:33 GMT -5
I'll be on a RN waitlist soon enough. MURSE to the Rescue!
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Post by Coldwave on Nov 24, 2013 17:33:47 GMT -5
I'm with you there brother!
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Post by Puma1 on Nov 24, 2013 17:34:03 GMT -5
I'm CPR, First aid, and emergency respondent certified through the BSA along with the Red Cross. All of my cards were up to date, and I've also taken a paramedic class at LCC.
I think most of the people at these events are at the very least trained and knowledgable in first aid.
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Post by Bison on Nov 24, 2013 17:36:23 GMT -5
I always carry my IFAK during games just in case. Also, I will complete my BSN at SVSU in a couple weeks. If anyone has questions about nursing school feel free to PM me. The most essential element to safety is related to prevention. Dehydration and sprained ankles are the most common injuries that I have seen. Bringing enough water and proper boots can go a long way.
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Post by O'Dwah on Nov 24, 2013 18:08:34 GMT -5
I'm a Paramedic, I carry basic bandages and dressings for minor things, as well as a small amount of fluids. I agree with Bison as far as prevention, I've seen far too many players go down due to heat related illnesses and dehydration.
Mosin is a Navy FMF Corpsman, and has an extensive background in trauma managment, I'll let him chime in if he wants.
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Post by slippy on Nov 24, 2013 19:15:04 GMT -5
I can't believe that this hasn't been brought up yet, but here we go. I served and I've received more than enough training to deal with an emergency situation. Would I do anything in the event of anything less than a life/limb situation, hell no.
Now you may at this point be thinking "Well gee Slippy, that's kind of a dick move." But there is a very good reason for this. If you do not have any certification or it has expired you are not supposed to do anything. You can be sued. I can establish an airway, apply splints, administer IV's, seal a sucking chest wound, ect. ect. But unless a life was in immediate danger, I wouldn't do a thing. It's not worth being sued or potentially facing criminal charges if I were to mess up.
But thankfully, as established by this thread, there are always people with the proper and current creds at events.
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Post by Deacon on Nov 24, 2013 19:42:54 GMT -5
I would have only brought it up if someone had/has a decomp needle in their IFAK or anything I/V or I/O Related...
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Post by slippy on Nov 24, 2013 20:15:11 GMT -5
Naw Deacon it's a bit more extreme than that. Any hands on a victim/patient makes you liable. Say a guy gets a laceration while playing airsoft. You have a decently stocked IFAK and you think "well I have some bandages" and you apply one. If you're not certified or licensed to do so in any way and the person develops an infection due to a bandage not being sterile the person at fault is you and you're liable.
Unless it's a life or limb situation the best course of action is to make the patient/victim as comfortable as possible and wait until emergency services arrive to take over. People get sued every day over incredibly stupid stuff. Unfortunately you could be doing the right thing and save a life but at the end of the day be sued because you broke someones rib while administering CPR. It's messed up but it's the way it is.
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