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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Nov 23, 2013 16:42:40 GMT -5
If this is in the wrong section please move it.
Anyways, I'm currently thinking of picking up a Celsius CTW. I've looked on a lot of pages to see what I really need to know to operate it well, but seem to come up empty handed. I know how similar ctw and ptw platforms are so you ptw users out there put input in to. So I'm here to ask, what do I need to know about them to operate it to its full potential?
Do ptw mags work with it? What gram bbs are recommended? Can you change the spring In the cylinder to reduce or increase the fps, so you don't have to buy a new cylinder? What type of KAC style r.I.s will work with its d-ring? If I have 11.1 1100 mah batteries can I use those instead of having to buy new batteries to meet the 1200mah recommendation?
Things of that nature, any input will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Post by Mosin on Nov 24, 2013 9:31:38 GMT -5
- PTW/CTW mags are interchangeable
- We (RAGE) currently have two PTWs and one CTW on the squad. Everyone shoots .25 gram.
- You can change the spring in a CTW, I'm 99% certain you can do it in a PTW as well. I believe the whole cylinder system was just so you could hot swap FPS's without having to do the work required to switch them.
- Any real steel RIS will work with the TW platforms, I can't speak accurately to replicas, unless they're licensed (DD by Madbull works best)
- Your batteries will work fine. When you order a CTW you should get one for free anyways, but the 1100 mAh just refers to capacity, so long as you're putting 11.1v of LiPo in it you'll see optimum trigger response.
People like to jump on the bandwagon of CTW is a clone therefore it's not as good, when arguably a lot of pieces on the CTW are revered as better or "stronger" than the original. The motor for example is a lot better strength and quality over the PTW, and the stainless steel reformation 6.00 sniper barrel is pretty nice too. If you're really trying to go balls to the walls on a training weapon look into Fight Club Customs, for a cool $2,700 you can own one of those and they'll make both PTW and CTW look like Echo 1.
Hope this helps, if you're picking one up I have a few extras of stuff when I traded my CTW for a Maruzen (Still have 6.00 sniper barrel, four mags, crane stock and buffer tube, and one Celcius brand battery).
-Mosin
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Post by Knief on Nov 24, 2013 11:42:06 GMT -5
Only a few things to add to Mosin's post. I'm using a G&P replica of the 7" KAC RIS and it fits well, but does rotate out of place just a bit. It would be an easy enough fix, but I'm not using any aiming devices on the front rail, so it doesn't much matter to me.
You can swap the springs out of the PTW cylinders, but you can also cut them down. The guy I bought my PTW from trimmed his springs so that they were all shooting just inside of MiA regulations for the various MED levels we have. If you have a chrono at your disposal, it might be worth your time to do the fine tuning rather than buying springs with incremental power outputs.
I use anything from .23s to .30s in my PTW without a problem, though the stock hop roller was a but too thin to give the .30s proper lift. I swapped out the roller with a bit of Du-Bro R/C helicopter fuel line and it solved all of my hop up woes. I don't know if the CTW roller is as anemic as the PTW roller, but if it is, that's definitely an upgrade to look into. I bought a couple feet of the stuff for like, $1.50, so I have replacement rollers for life.
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 14, 2014 20:31:52 GMT -5
Necro post but I couldn't find anything as far as if madbull barrels will work with a ctw along with a madbull DD r.I.s
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Post by Knief on Jan 14, 2014 20:35:18 GMT -5
PTW barrels have a different hop up cut from AEG barrels, and are quite a bit thicker as well. I don't recall if Madbull has a specific PTW line of barrels, but you can't use their standard AEG line in a PTW/CTW. I can't answer the RIS question directly. PTWs use real steal spec barrel nuts and such, so anything that fits on a real rifle will fit on a PTW.
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 14, 2014 20:47:38 GMT -5
PTW barrels have a different hop up cut from AEG barrels, and are quite a bit thicker as well. I don't recall if Madbull has a specific PTW line of barrels, but you can't use their standard AEG line in a PTW/CTW. I can't answer the RIS question directly. PTWs use real steal spec barrel nuts and such, so anything that fits on a real rifle will fit on a PTW. Okay thanks. Also have you been able to stop the R.I.S wobble? I tried super glueing it and I did it offset by accident and getting it off the rifle, took hours. Sent from my SCH-I535 using proboards
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 16, 2014 14:10:39 GMT -5
Help! So I rewired my gun and got it shooting. I put in a king arms cqb cylinder and it shot fine, all the sudden something seems to have broken in the cylinder and where the dust cover is there is a protruding piece of the cylinder. Its circular and the size of a bb. Now I'm under able to get my cylinder out and whenever I tilt the gun I can hear something in the cylinder freely moving and clanking around.
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Post by Knief on Jan 16, 2014 16:18:17 GMT -5
A picture might help.
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Post by cqbr on Jan 16, 2014 22:10:34 GMT -5
Worn nozzle o-ring that caused the nozzle to disconnect, or your cylinder head screw came un-done.
King Arms cylinders are trash as well. Get at the very least a Celcius one.
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 16, 2014 22:47:03 GMT -5
I can't find a m90 cylinder for cheap. I really want to use this gun in cqb. But when I looked down in side a small metal tube snapped and got lodged down by the piston head. It punctured the outside of the tube and caused it to get stuck in the upper receiver. I did get it out but I had to dremmel and sand down the puncture point in order to dislodge whatever was broken and got stuck. So I can't get pictures but the cylinder is now ruined.
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Post by cqbr on Jan 16, 2014 22:48:33 GMT -5
Good riddance. Those things are garbage.
Didn't your gun come with a cylinder? Just put a M90 spring in there.
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 16, 2014 22:51:29 GMT -5
Yeah it came with a cylinder. I tried putting in the spring from the king arms cylinder and it didn't cycle. And started to make the same noise the king arms did before it broke. So I'm not sure what to do.
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Post by cqbr on Jan 16, 2014 23:20:39 GMT -5
Compare the lengths. Same length?
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 16, 2014 23:25:20 GMT -5
I think one is a tiny bit longer and has thinner coils but ill have to disassemble the cylinder to really compare. Ill have to do that tomorrow and ill include some pictures of the comparison.
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Post by Bishop (Task-Force Nightmare) on Jan 17, 2014 11:29:27 GMT -5
Okay so they're about the same size. The m90 is 6 1/4 inches compared to the stock spring which is 6 1/2 inches. They are generally the same just ones stiffer and a different color.
I liked the king arms cylinder mostly because it took up enough space to make the rifle solid. With the stock cylinder the upper and lower have a bit of wobble between them.
Also what type of lube or oil should I use to clean the inner barrel? Sent from my SCH-I535 using proboards
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