Novak
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Post by Novak on Sept 12, 2013 22:45:58 GMT -5
It was more of the message that it puts out. Ever hear of how managers or people in charge are held to a higher standard? I don't claim to were eye pro every time I shoot, just saying it looks a little unsafe in a room and the volume of fire. You've also got to think of how new or uneducated airsofters are going enterpret the video.
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Post by tdtactical on Sept 13, 2013 6:47:34 GMT -5
Dude get a life, It was a private game that had not started yet and everyone else was in the safe zone which has not been netted off as of yet. Everyone has done it everywhere on every field. This will not be the norm @ Tdtactical.
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Post by Zorak on Sept 13, 2013 8:59:40 GMT -5
Don't act like you put your eye pro on every time you plink around with your guns. I put on safety glasses before I fire into the backstop in my basement. So there.
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Post by Da Vinci - Да Винчи on Sept 13, 2013 9:00:19 GMT -5
Dude get a life, It was a private game that had not started yet and everyone else was in the safe zone which has not been netted off as of yet. Everyone has done it everywhere on every field. This will not be the norm @ Tdtactical. Coming off a bit hostile for a new business, don't you think? I know, for a fact, that at least No Limits has a strict no firing in the safe zone AND eye protection on whenever shooting policy, even just to chrono. As for the physics, I'm just going off what I know and what I've been taught. No matter what the argument, BB weight restriction is pretty pointless.
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Post by Myers on Sept 13, 2013 10:04:48 GMT -5
Don't act like you put your eye pro on every time you plink around with your guns. I put on safety glasses before I fire into the backstop in my basement. So there. Yeah I guess things are a tad bit different indoors, so in this case, safety glasses probably should've been on. I was more thinking shooting say in your backyard into a cornfield where there is no possibility of a ricochet. I think its safe to say that TDtactical will learn from their mistakes and adjust accordingly to ensure a safe and fun environment. I think it's best to give them the BOTD in this instance, and expect it not to happen again.
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Arch-Angel(3.14)
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Post by Arch-Angel(3.14) on Sept 13, 2013 10:17:46 GMT -5
Aside from all the previous jumbo, I'm a little concerned with the "No tools" rule.
I understand one wouldn't want a customer swapping springs or something ridiculous like that on the field; however, I have encountered situations where my gun stops functioning for one reason or another and I NEED a tool to repair it. Allen keys, screwdrivers, pliers, etc. The amount of tools I have had to use on the field is insane, as I'm sure it is with most veteran airsofters. As a matter of fact, myself and many others carry a handful of tools in our loadout bags just in case the anticipated fit hits the shan. What would tdtactical offer their customer if they don't allow tools and his/her gun breaks? A free repair? Loan them some tools?
Lastly, I too, am curious as to if the floors are all interconnected or if each floor is an individual field. Is one game played on multiple floors?
~Arch
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Post by Gimpalong on Sept 13, 2013 10:59:56 GMT -5
Arch,
I think they're saying that you can't have tools on the playing field. You can bring tools to the field itself and keep them in the staging area while playing.
Honestly, this field looks like it could only run a recreational type game and for a rec-type game you shouldn't need any tools on the field with you. If your gun breaks just head back to the staging area, grab your tools out of your bag and go to work. It's not like a scenario game where you might be a mile from where the staging area is.
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Arch-Angel(3.14)
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Post by Arch-Angel(3.14) on Sept 13, 2013 11:02:20 GMT -5
Arch, I think they're saying that you can't have tools on the playing field. You can bring tools to the field itself and keep them in the staging area while playing. Honestly, this field looks like it could only run a recreational type game and for a rec-type game you shouldn't need any tools on the field with you. If your gun breaks just head back to the staging area, grab your tools out of your bag and go to work. It's not like a scenario game where you might be a mile from where the staging area is. Ah, if it is only referring to on the playing field, that's understandable. I interpreted it as no tools allowed in their facility period.
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Post by Gimpalong on Sept 13, 2013 11:04:43 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a bit unclear. That's why I said "I think." The wording of their statement starts off by saying , but then only says "field" at the end.
I'm sure they'll clarify when they post later.
Either way, not a big deal.
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Post by M.S.-ARC on Sept 13, 2013 11:12:44 GMT -5
I don't have any issues with guys providing constructive criticism for these guys because its always good for the community to be able to voice out any concerns especially for a new field.
The thing I don't want to see is us looking for ways to bring them down over minor things before they even get a chance to show us what they have to offer. Stupid little things like "this one guy in this one picture looked like he wasn't doing things right" or "things are not worded the way I'd prefer" should really be toned down for now. Keep in mind that they are still a work in progress. The more fields and options we have in the area, the better it is for us consumers so instead of being a little aggressive to these new comers, show them a little support and if things aren't going right, give them a chance to adjust.
Only when they refuse to take feedback from the community and chose to ignore safety issues is when its time to unleash hell.
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Post by Dallas on Sept 13, 2013 16:43:11 GMT -5
Man, it sucks that I had to move away from MI before this place opened. :I Looks like things are coming along well, though! How many floors are currently open for play, exactly?
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Post by tdtactical on Sept 15, 2013 9:47:40 GMT -5
Aside from all the previous jumbo, I'm a little concerned with the "No tools" rule. I understand one wouldn't want a customer swapping springs or something ridiculous like that on the field; however, I have encountered situations where my gun stops functioning for one reason or another and I NEED a tool to repair it. Allen keys, screwdrivers, pliers, etc. The amount of tools I have had to use on the field is insane, as I'm sure it is with most veteran airsofters. As a matter of fact, myself and many others carry a handful of tools in our loadout bags just in case the anticipated fit hits the shan. What would tdtactical offer their customer if they don't allow tools and his/her gun breaks? A free repair? Loan them some tools? Lastly, I too, am curious as to if the floors are all interconnected or if each floor is an individual field. Is one game played on multiple floors? ~Arch
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Sept 15, 2013 9:53:48 GMT -5
Aside from all the previous jumbo, I'm a little concerned with the "No tools" rule. I understand one wouldn't want a customer swapping springs or something ridiculous like that on the field; however, I have encountered situations where my gun stops functioning for one reason or another and I NEED a tool to repair it. Allen keys, screwdrivers, pliers, etc. The amount of tools I have had to use on the field is insane, as I'm sure it is with most veteran airsofters. As a matter of fact, myself and many others carry a handful of tools in our loadout bags just in case the anticipated fit hits the shan. What would tdtactical offer their customer if they don't allow tools and his/her gun breaks? A free repair? Loan them some tools? Lastly, I too, am curious as to if the floors are all interconnected or if each floor is an individual field. Is one game played on multiple floors? ~Arch Highlighting Tools of Any kind still doesn't tell us what the playing field includes. If its just the Game field itself then its not going to be to much of an issue for people. However it it's the entire property I do see it being an issue to plenty, especially those who are gun techs and usually bring Several Toolboxes with them to fix guns.
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Post by tdtactical on Sept 15, 2013 10:12:45 GMT -5
Hi, to address your concerns. We do allow tools to come into our facility, just not on the playing fields themselves. Our 3rd floor gun range is equipped with large tables and lockers and a staging area to prep for the game. We even have tools onsite for players to use if they did not bring their own. To address the comments regarding the floor design Tdtactical is designed to be a force on force training/competition facility, this means fast paced quick games with limited room for stagnated players. We run short games that usually last 4-5 min in length across multiple floors with winner stay on and winner also advances. Basically we conduct team death match with all players having to be eliminated from the team to be considered a point/victory, winner is best out of 3 games. Re-spawns are allowed by another player of the same team touching a downed player for 5 seconds. We will have strobes in the future that will indicate a wounded/down player. This is what we found to work best @ our facility but of course players are welcome to create their own games and rules for private parties and if consensus suggest we will implement the publics request. We are a players competition facility here to serve you. We have floors 4 and 5 completed as of now = 16,000 sqf. We are currently working on floors 3 and 6. 3 is our gun range and lounge area or players to congregate and mingle, address gun issues and so forth. I don't have any issues with guys providing constructive criticism for these guys because its always good for the community to be able to voice out any concerns especially for a new field. The thing I don't want to see is us looking for ways to bring them down over minor things before they even get a chance to show us what they have to offer. Stupid little things like "this one guy in this one picture looked like he wasn't doing things right" or "things are not worded the way I'd prefer" should really be toned down for now. Keep in mind that they are still a work in progress. The more fields and options we have in the area, the better it is for us consumers so instead of being a little aggressive to these new comers, show them a little support and if things aren't going right, give them a chance to adjust. Only when they refuse to take feedback from the community and chose to ignore safety issues is when its time to unleash hell. Thanks, we needed that. We are open today if anyone wants to come down and check out our facility.
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Post by auzzie on Oct 11, 2013 9:23:57 GMT -5
Silly question time, when you say no grenades, that means thunder b grenades and grenades that shoots out bbs? On the tips/tactics section: it says:
In real-world scenarios, there is no such thing as unlimited ammo. Other paintball/airsoft facilities utilize the hopper-style markers, but at Tango Down Tactical, we use real-life markers that are magazine-fed that mimic every aspect of the real thing, including ammo reserves.
Does that mean we just use a limited amount of ammo on each person? I saw on your rental section that you can get a high cap mag of 500 rounds, does that mean we can only hold 500 rounds on us during a battle either one 500 high cap or 5 100 round mid caps or a mix. Guess I can't run around with my 11 AK mid caps :\
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