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Post by dispater on Aug 20, 2012 21:48:55 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm still new to airsoft and don't know much about upgrades. My gun is the one listed in the subject and i was wondering what types of upgrades i can do to it. It has version 3 motor. I was thinking along the lines of getting the best out of little if you catch my drift...
What i was considering so far was a tighten up... either to a 6.03 or 6.01. Also getting maybe a lypo battery. I just want the gun to be better (Shoot further, more accurate, and possibly faster). Also if you guys dont mind tell me the full steps that i would need to take. For example, if i got a lypo battery do i need to change something else on the gun... etc.
If someone gas anyone upgraded the same gun, maybe tell me what you did too it... the improvements etc...
Thanks for taking the time to read this post.
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Post by Crapshoot on Aug 20, 2012 22:25:02 GMT -5
First off, motors don't have "versions". Gearboxes are classified by Version number (V2, V3, V6, etc.) and motors are classified by length (long, medium, and short). AK variants take V3 boxes and I believe short motors. Second, get a 6.03. 6.01mm barrels are really only good for increasing FPS and they tend to jam more than 6.03s. 6.03s are also known to be more accurate (typically) than 6.01s.
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Post by dispater on Aug 20, 2012 23:38:05 GMT -5
Sorry my knowledge about AEG's is low... I hope i can learn more as time goes on but for now I'm still inexperienced. You are right it is a V3.
So, so far 6.03 barrel will be my choice. What about the lypo battery... and what are the differences between short, medium, and long motors?
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Post by Da Vinci - Да Винчи on Aug 21, 2012 0:18:44 GMT -5
I won't answer on LiPo's other than they take more thought and upgrades than NiCd/NiMh batteries. Different guns use motors with different shaft lengths. M4 type guns generally use a long type motor, AK type guns generally use a short type motor, and I think only SIG rifles use a medium motor, but I'm not 100% positive on that.
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Post by specks159 on Aug 21, 2012 1:37:19 GMT -5
Now, if you want accuracy, then the barrel and hopup are the first things you will want to look at. A high quality 6.03mm barrel is a standard upgrade to any gun I use. I prefer prometheus barrels, or Madbull ones if you're on a budget. The hopup unit is what controls the range of your gun. There are a few different modifications that you can do here (research the r-hop) but the biggest thing you're looking for is consistency. Running a lipo (not lypo) battery requires a bit more gearbox work. You will need to look into shimming from the bevel, Angle of Engagement (AOE) correction, and mosfets.
Now if you want to learn, start out small. Install a new barrel or bucking to get the feel for breaking down the gun. Once you decide to open up the gearbox, don't go and overhaul the whole thing at once. Start out with some simple upgrades, such as a new spring or a bearing spring guide if your gun came with a plastic one. Read through the various resources on the Internet to learn from the mistakes others have made before you. Take things slowly and have fun. Working on your own guns may seem daunting at first but it is fairly simple and rather fun once you get the hang of it.
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Post by Da Vinci - Да Винчи on Aug 21, 2012 10:24:58 GMT -5
Even if you aren't going to run a LiPo battery, it's still a great idea to shim your gearbox, correct it's AoE, and install a MOSFET. Shimming will make the gearbox run much smoother, and reduce the typical Chinese "whine" of the gearbox, as the gears will be perfectly tuned and won't grind together. Correcting the AoE is really simple, too, all you need is a few plastic washers and a file. However, I'd recommend to use a sorbothane pad in correcting the AoE, as it'll reduce stress on the gearbox shell and take the loud "WHACK" of the gun shooting and reduce it to a lower "Thud". MOSFETs are probably the most complicated of the three. You'll need a soldering iron and some basic soldering skills, and a small chunk of cash for the MOSFET itself if you want a good one. There are some good guides for all of these around the internet, I'm sure you could get some links if you need them.
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Post by dispater on Aug 21, 2012 10:58:07 GMT -5
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Post by Chubbs on Aug 21, 2012 11:17:35 GMT -5
Yes, your typical ak47 has a 455mm inner barrel.
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Post by Sieve on Aug 21, 2012 11:19:00 GMT -5
Yea, that one will work, but I'd buy a new bucking and nub to go along with it.
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Post by specks159 on Aug 21, 2012 11:20:55 GMT -5
As davinci said, those simple mods are things that should be done to every gun regardless of the battery you're using. Personally I correct AOE using a sorbothane pad as it helps lessen the stress on the gearbox as well. Either way works though. MOSFETs always seem incredibly complicated to beginners but once you take the time to figure out how they actually work and what they do, then they're rather simple to install as well as long as you have some basic soldering skills. Now contrary to what davinci said, you will not have to break the bank to buy a MOSFET. A basic MOSFET to protect your trigger contacts will run I. The area of $20-$35. If you want a computerized fet with tons of features then be prepared to spend more, but this isn't necessary for every build.
If you have a standard length AK, then that should be the correct barrel length.
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Post by dispater on Aug 21, 2012 13:17:01 GMT -5
Alright I'm going to go with the barrel that i linked, shim gearbox, and correct AOE. I plan on doing this myself so i can help further my knowledge of airsoft guns. That being said, i know there are guides out there and can easily find many on google that can help me do these mods. However, do you guys know any good guides from experience. I just want to reduce the chance of me messing up is all. Guides on barrel removal and installation, shimming gearbox, and correcting AOE, for AK47 Kalashnikov Tactical AEG Rifle by Cybergun, would be really appreciated.
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Post by bobbunny on Aug 21, 2012 13:35:16 GMT -5
Eh, you could get better with barrels than that. www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_72_378&products_id=24387&osCsid=6ff7316a4e164be24c884e36c4f4f6dbCan't get better than a prommy. If you want the extra range and accuracy constancy, I would recommend also to do the R-Hop mod. It may take a while, but most of everyone whose done it right have had a pretty good result. You may also want to downgrade the spring to an M90 or M100. If memory serves, those things fire at at least 450 FPS. You won't be doing any playing inside, and you're going to have to learn some longer engagement distances. Lipo's are a meh thing to me. Granted, you get the extra trigger response and rate of fire, but you have to nanny it more. Just stick with your standard Nimh batteries for now. In case you haven't already, make sure you get a smart charger. It's like $15 from anyone on the forums and will make your life easier. Cheers!
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Post by dispater on Aug 22, 2012 1:27:30 GMT -5
To bobbunny... Why not just get a m150 spring?
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Post by Sieve on Aug 22, 2012 8:32:35 GMT -5
Your gearbox wont be able to handle that, just downgrade your spring for longevity of the gearbox and so you can field the gun.
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