Pantera wz.93 camo help

[bastirous666]

Looking to have an alternate set of camo. Right now I have a flecktarn kit, and I am looking to get the Polish Pantera wz.93 camo kit.

My issue is I am having trouble deciding between chest rigs. I could go with the 6 mag type (what I have now for flecktarn).
www.miwo-military.net/-produkty/pid,303/KAMIZELKA-CHI-CZYK

Alternatively I could go for the 8 mag variant
www.miwo-military.net/-produkty/pid,301/KAMIZELKA-TAKTYCZNA-KT-8

Or I could go all out and get the 12 mag variant
www.miwo-military.net/-produkty/pid,299/TAKTYCZNA-KT-12

I shoot a lot when I'm playing (and I mostly play large games), so any of the mag numbers would work well for me. Having more than the 6 I go with now means I wouldn't need to reload mags on the field quite so much. I'm not sure about how comfortable or uncomfortable the larger sized rigs would be. Right now my chinese style rig is the best thing I ever spent money on. Also the chinese style rig is the cheapest by far. Does anyone have experience with any of these rigs, and could they compare it to the chinese style rig? Thanks


Next is the camo shirts. I have found two places to buy them from. The first is miwo-military, and the other helikon-tex. I would like to know if the patterns of the camo from these two companies are really the same. I understand that everything from miwo-military will match, but will the stuff from helikon-tex match the miwo-military pattern. I would hate to buy the camo top/pant from Helikon (which is cheaper) and find that they are slightly different patterns even though they claim to be the same.
helikon-tex.pl/galeria.php

Overall I am just looking for anyone who has experience with these products, and what they thought about them. I like to make the most informed decisions I can, and so any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

[Thor]

You've probably picked one of the few camos in use by a major country that I can't recall seeing in person. It's just not seen around here because almost no one wants to do a Polish loadout. Personally I like the desert version and briefly considered getting some before, but it just didn't end up being right for me.

As for the items you linked above, your links are broken, so I can't really comment on any of your options, however I would suggest rather than getting a chest rig in the same color as your camo, go with something that is a solid color that will match instead. It will allow you to transition your kit between multiple uniforms without having to buy all new gear every time you want to change up your camo pattern.

[bastirous666]

Ok so I have fixed the links. Some web browsers will translate for you, but I think without translation the pictures in the site say enough. Also the Helikon link goes to their main page, so to view their Pantera camo just click the "Polish woodland camo" thing on the left.

Also I am not particularly looking for a solid color chest rig, as I already own one, and for my new camo kit I would prefer to be all matching. It's just a preference.

[eagledriver]

You are in luck, as I am actually a Helikon retailer. I do not stock anything in Polish woodland or desert, but can tell you that it is real deal camo (the patterna) used by the Polish military but they make other styles for the civilian market (i.e. the ACU cut.)

I personally love the SFU (Special Forces Uniform) which is essentially a RAID'ed BDU (I'm not so much of a fan of the zip up ACU.)

They do not make gear, however, and the gear they do resell is Condor-ish (some looks exactly the same.)

I will be going to IWA in about 1 1/2 weeks (European SHOT show) and meeting with my Helikon rep while out there. I would be happy to either answer any other questions, or if I do not know the answer, get them answered for you.

Miwo unfortunately does not go to IWA so I cannot do a side-by-side comparison for you. Miwo is not one of my manufacturers so I do not have anything from them myself.

[bastirous666]

You are in luck, as I am actually a Helikon retailer. I do not stock anything in Polish woodland or desert, but can tell you that it is real deal camo (the patterna) used by the Polish military but they make other styles for the civilian market (i.e. the ACU cut.)

I personally love the SFU (Special Forces Uniform) which is essentially a RAID'ed BDU (I'm not so much of a fan of the zip up ACU.)

Thanks eagledriver for the info. I have a question for you. Why do you say you don't like the zip up ACU? I have never had a camo top with that design, and so I would like to hear what your issues with it are, because I would hate to get the ACU top and be annoyed with the way it wears.

[eagledriver]

It is just a personal preference. When I was in the Air Force, we had button-up BDU's (and the ABU still button's up.) I do have a lot of uniforms in the zip up ACU style--I just like buttons over zippers (for the jacket.)