How good of a deal is this?

[Joe Smith, AAM]

I'm just starting out, and would love to get a GBB
Mac-10/Mac-11, this looks neat but I'm not sure if
I've ever heard of the brand before.

www.airsoft128.com/cgi-bin/store1/AVGR006.html?id=DCnynNPx

Anyone have thoughts or ideas for me?

Thanks,

Joe Smith, Average American Motorist

[Viking]

KWA is an associate of KSC, KSC is a great company with many high quality products. KWA however I do not know much about, in fact I know nothing of them, the impression I get is they make the same guns as KSC but with cheaper parts to lower the price. That could be completely wrong however.

If you asked me though I would say stay away from KWA and spend 5 bucks more on the KSC M11. A few members around here have KSC M11s and the gun is great, I myself have held and fired Ballista’s M11 and fell in love on the spot. In fact just but 3 or 4 days ago I was trying to decide between a KSC M11 and KSC Styer TMP, in the end I went with the TMP because no one out here has it. But some day I plan on getting an M11, maybe when Ballista ships out to the Airforce in Oct. I can buy his, who knows.

If you get the KSC version I can and will say you will not be disappointed. Airsoft Toys has some on order now and should be in their inventory within the week, so if you were looking to buy soon they might be able to hook you up.

www.airsofttoys.com/viewproductdetail.php?ProdID=319

-V I K I N G
SEMTEX Operative
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[Hadoken]

KWA and KSC are pretty much the same company (no one knows for sure though). KSC products however are built to slightly higher standards.

I have had the chance to check out both the KSC and KWA versions of the M11 and the KSC one wins by a mile. Not only do you get full trademarks with the KSC one but you also get a metal replacement barrel whereas you're pretty much stuck with an ugly orange one with the KWA.

With that said, head on over to www.airsoftatlanta.com and check out thier "gas" section for a nice price on the KSC M11.

[InvisibleSoilder]

I have the KSC Mac11 and it very high quaility. I would go with the KSC because it is a lot better for 5 bucks.

[Ballista]

Joe Smith, the metallic scraping sound while twisting a metal suppressor on a metal barrel is well worth the extra dollars. Viking, I could never part with my Little Bigmac. It's just too keepable, with its silencer and case... ;D

[acidflash666]

HAH, i just happen to have the KWA M11A1 Version 2
IT ROCKS!!!! here are the specs.
Ammo: Precision 6mm (.24").2 to .25 gr. airsoft ammo
Weight: 2 lb. 3 lb. w/ mag
Length: 10 inches stock folded 18 inches stock extended
Stock: Metal folding, same as NFA M11
Gases: Works out of the box with all listed gases.
1.Commercial Japanese Airsoft Gas HFC134(1,1,1,2 tetrafluoroethane)
2.HFC152a PC Duster/"Canned Air" and homemade fill adapter
3.Commercial Taiwanese Airsoft "Green gas" CH2FCF3CH3
3.HCFC22(R22)Freon 22 and homemade fill adapter.
on gas, temperature and rate of fire.
Barrel: 4 inch
Bolt: Magnesium
Accuracy: semi auto 2 inch at 7 yd 18 inch at 35 yd.
Velocity: 320 fps
Energy: .5 ft.lb (.7 Joules) to .6 ft.lb. (.9 Joules)
Magazine: 48 round
Maximum effective range on combat target: 35 yd.

[Newman]

Wait a minute here, Ballista, which type of M11 do you have?

Your M11 and Invisible Soldier's M11 were somewhat different in shape (it was a very noticable change in feeling going from one to another).

[Ballista]

It's a KSC.
I too felt a difference between mine and Soldier's, not in shape but in material. Strange.

[Viking]

I’m guessing soldier’s is a KWA advertised as KSC. Isn’t his the one that didn’t come with the black barrel?

-V I K I N G
SEMTEX Operative[/color]

[SilentSEAL]

Yeah, i think I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. right... It also didn't have any trademarks... But if that is the quality of a KWA gun i wouldn't be to worried about it

[acidflash666]

yeah my kwa didn't come with a black barrel, i just scraped the orange off mine though.