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Post by spiceyp on Feb 27, 2010 13:49:53 GMT -5
Hey I am looking to buy a co2 side arm and was wondering how many bbs the cross man air mag c11 holds?
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Post by Hatemonger on Feb 27, 2010 22:08:33 GMT -5
CO2 pistols are a horrible idea for a side arm, they shoot way to hot (to high of a foot per second speed) to be of any practical use, at least in MIA sanctioned events as you would end up with at least a 20 foot engagement limit.
Crossman is considered about the lowest of the low of airsoft guns, so finding people on here who have information about them just not going to happen. It would be similar to going to a dragracing forum and asking questions about a '92 Chevette.
I would suggest looking at some of the retailers on the left side of the MIA home page and finding a duster/143a or green gas/propane powered pistol.
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Post by spiceyp on Feb 28, 2010 12:45:21 GMT -5
Yeah true but I currently don't make enough money to buy a higher end gun. I really wish I did though and I do plan on it some day.
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Post by Timm on Feb 28, 2010 13:11:19 GMT -5
Holds 15 rds in the mag.
I own one, and love it. Works perfectly in the winter, thats the reason I got one.
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Post by spiceyp on Feb 28, 2010 13:47:45 GMT -5
Ok I ended up getting the ruger instead it holds the same amount of bbs and is co2 the nly difference was the ruger was 4 dollars cheaper
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Post by Hatemonger on Feb 28, 2010 13:49:05 GMT -5
Holds 15 rds in the mag. I own one, and love it. Works perfectly in the winter, thats the reason I got one. I stand corrected. However my statements about CO2 and the quality of Crossman still stand as general rules. Yeah true but I currently don't make enough money to buy a higher end gun. I really wish I did though and I do plan on it some day. I understand completely about the money issue, my first side arm was a Y&P NBB that I picked up for about $35. I'm not saying to buy a higher end gun, just to go after a duster or propane powered gun. You will have a better chance of staying in a safe and acceptable fps range, it's actually cheaper to keep them running as propane for example, cost a few bucks for one or two large cans that should last for a whole season and when you do move up to higher end guns you'll already have the gas and adapter in your inventory. EDIT:Damn it, That's the second time today I've typed too slow to be relevant.
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Post by spiceyp on Feb 28, 2010 13:53:25 GMT -5
your information does help a lot I think I might get a propane as my next gun they sound like a good value
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Post by PlastiKTuneR on Feb 28, 2010 23:58:12 GMT -5
Don't buy a gun just because it holds more rounds, look for barrel length, Strength of construction (plastic, or metal) Accessories, rails to mount optics.
Besides that, you shouldn't need more than three rounds to hit a target. Do some practice. Spray and pray doesn't do much, even with a 38 round GBB Mini-Uzi. : ]
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Post by redknight on Mar 1, 2010 2:26:03 GMT -5
I have to disagree with Hatemonger in a few instances. I had a Sig GSR 45 non-blowback and it shot 350fps on the nose, holding 15 rounds per mag and getting about 200 shots per co2 canister with about 120 - 150 shots being consistent in speed. I recently gave it to a team mate, he loves it. I still have 2 s&w M&p40s, they both shoot 300- 320 fps and hold 15 rounds per mag. They get around 230 shots per cansiter, with about 180 shots being consistent. I use them as outdoor sidearms in the fall and winter mainly because they are less effected by the cold than greengas guns. Tippman makes a nonblowback co2 K400 (basically a nbb glock) it shoots around 330 fps. The K400 holds 17 rounds per mag and gets about 200 nshots per canister, about 150 of those shots are at consistent speeds. My buddy uses two of them all the time at farmington CQB. I am not a person who enjoys seeing the wind deflect my shots so I tend to use heavier ammo when playing outdoors. In the GSR I used .28 or even .4 ammo with great results acheiving kills with .4s at over 25 yards consistently. In the m&p40s I used .25 bbs becasue they drop like a stone when I use heavier rounds. I also owned a crossman c11 which I gave away to a friend. It was not accurate, it shot way too damn hot (around 355- 360 fps) and it had a double column mag, but I can't remember how many shots it held. It had average accuracy but my main gripe about the crossman c11 is that it holds the co2 canister in the pistol itself separate from the mag which makes you open the handle up instead of swapping mags when you run out of co2. In field games this really sucks because after several shots, your co2 canister will get cold and frosty which will lead to lose of velocity and accuracy in your gun. Finally I had a KJW ruger MKI pistol. (gas pistol, I know, but there is a point) Above all, do not buy this gun or any like it! It uses greengas, hold 17 rounds and it shoots around 450-470 fps with the least accuracy I have ever seen in any gun ever. Not only is it miserably inaccurate but it shoots too hot for practical use as a sidearm. for indoor or summer use I would recommend almost any greengas pistol mainly because propane is cheaper than co2 and blowback gas pistols look so damn cool I would advise that you use caution with Hi capas especially if you are thinking about using co2 mags in them. GBB pistols use co2 canisters up so fast its not even funny (28 or 30 shots before they go empty). I have 3 co2 Hi capa mags and I will use them until they wear out but never again will I purchase a co2 blowback pistol. I have 2 greengas mags for the same pistol and I love the cost efficiency of propane and greengas as well as the ease of reloading them. Hope this is somewhat helpful to you in your decision making ~Rob
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Post by Corporal Bogger on Mar 15, 2010 15:54:30 GMT -5
Wow Rk...
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