stopngo

[Ice]

I had listed a CA M15A4 for sale on commerence thread someitme in May. Stopngo contacted me saying that he would be intrested in would like to make a trade for a Hk94L. I drove out to his place and he explained to me a few things that where wrong with the gun plus some cash. I bought the gun as is and took home. Wound up being several more things wrong with the gun that he did not clarify on but that's the risk of buying a old gun. A couple months later he contacts me asking for me to pay for the engine on his M15 he bought for me. A couple weeks later he tells me that he upgraded it and the entire gun has fired and that it would cost more to fix it then the gun was worth. Of course he wanted me to pay for the damages out of my own pocket.

That is my experience from him, take or leave what you please.

[stopngo]

Hey, The only reason I wanted you to replace the motor was because: When I took it apart (after you specificly telling me it was all CA), I found an ICS motor in it. Which if you know anything about gearboxs, ICS pinion gears dont mesh correctly with CA bevel gears. I found extensive wear. The bevel gear was pretty much shot and the whole gearbox began making strange noises not too far down the road. I went to upgrade it (pdi 120 spring) and found that when I put it together, it made a much higher pitch noise. Now, this is partly due to the upgrade, but also to the fact that the internals were near shot. ICE also claims that the gun was fairly new (a couple weeks). Ofcoarse, later I found out that "new" meant that he had bought it from gunslinger a couple weeks prior.

As for the gun that I traded him. I had only had it for about a week (after buying it off gunslinger). I personally didnt have it in working condition during that week. I did not know everything that was wrong with it. I specificly told ICE the things that I knew were wrong with the gun. I told him that there may be other things. I hadnt had the time or knowledge to investigate any other problems. Also, at the time, it was my first AEG. So I didnt really know what was what in it, and I wasnt about to rip it apart and find out what was wrong with it. I was told, the only thing that was wrong with it was the fact that the battery needed to be rewired to the foregrip (told this by gunslinger). So I told ICE that Id give him the gun and some cash for the m15 (which was supposed to be a 2 week old completely CA gun). We made the trade and when I discovered that the motor was ICS and the internals were pretty damaged, I sent him a pm asking him for the original CA motor (if he had it). At no time did I ask him to overhall the whole gun. So basically, I figured, since he lied to me and takes me as an ignorant noob, maybe he'll fork over the motor that was claimed to be in it.

ICE, watch what your saying about people. I didnt mean for any hard feelings to arise from asking for something that should have been in the gun. You should have PMed me and got the story straight. Your a good guy from what I can tell, but saying things like you did makes people jump to conclusions about people really fast. Just get your story right next time.

[Ice]

Okay you know what you don't have all the facts to this either.

A.) I bought this gun from my team mate. As far as I knew during the time of sell he was the only one that had owned it and was used at 1 Skirimish with very light use. I bought it, took it to safari strike and hated it, perferring my Mauri over it. Later I found out he picked it up from Gunslinger in new condition.

B.) I Had no clue if there is/was ever a ICS motor in there. I sure as hell never opened it, and the way you where acting I had no reason to believe you.

Now you want to talk about me?

First of all I don't take advantage people, I try and help as much as possible. At that time I was unemployed and homeless. So when you come with your punk ass attiude telling me to fix something that I don't even have a reason to believe your telling the truth. I won't be scammed and will not fork over money without evidence being put in front of me. You quote " Never asked me to overahil the gun" Um why then do I have 4 pms with you asking me to do this? You want something from people. Do it in a proffesional polite manner. Don't be scarastic or forceful or else I for one won't be over eager to help you out.

[stopngo]

I beleive you when you say you thought it was all CA. But your little mistake pretty much fucked me over the side of a table. I was out 250 because of that frankengun. I was not demanding a new motor. If you had it, maybe. But as you may see, at the time, I felt like I had been taken advantage of. Can you see why that may discourage somebody, or put them in an angry position. You cant blame somebody for acting that way under those circumstances ("sarcastic or forcefull"). Im not an adult ICE. Im fifteen, and at the time I didnt exactly have the maturity level I have now. So dont blow up on me about that. I dont know who your calling sarcastic or forceful when you write a review on an adelecent that makes him look like satan.
You need leanience and patience in situations like these ICE. Now if your not grown up enough to understand what your dealing with, maybe you should try paintball.

[Ice]

I am not trying to make you look like satan, I tried wiriting out how my dealing was between you in the most unbiased way possible. Trust me if I really wanted to I could add more. I do hope you have became more mature, bescause at the time those pms where almost something you would find written by a 11 year old playing counter strike. I offered you my extra TM motor at the time. If I had a CA one around I would have probably given it you, but I didn't. If you took my review to be that attacking on you, I didn't mean for it to come off that way. I was simple trying to stat what happend from my point of view. Sadly we were both screwed over in this deal, so I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. don't look at like I came out on top.

[stopngo]

Ok, well. I guess were cool. It did seem like you were attacking me, just so you know. Neither of us came out on top when it comes to the guns. There were misunderstandings which I hope youve aknowledged as I have. I dont think your a bad guy and Im sorry if you still have a negative opinion on me. In the past, Ive been known to act before I think and I appologise for that. I hope to play with you some day when your back in Michigan.