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Post by Rambostyle032 on May 18, 2004 20:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by Zorak on May 18, 2004 22:56:07 GMT -5
I went through a bunch of inexpensive red dot sights in my paintballing days, and my advice to you is this: Save your money.
In the < $50 price range, you're looking at generally crummy stuff - cheap parts, wretched assembly, etc. On a tube that big you'll also have a huge parallax problem, meaning that while you may be able to pick up targets faster, you won't be able to hit any faster than you could with iron sights. At least get a replica Aimpoint or something, so that even if it turns out to be crummy (and many are), you can claim it's just to make it look more like real operator steel.
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Post by Rambostyle032 on May 19, 2004 14:02:49 GMT -5
yea thanks
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Post by AHalo on May 19, 2004 17:13:35 GMT -5
BSA's are pretty good
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Post by Bigmack on May 19, 2004 17:22:09 GMT -5
As far as rifle scopes go, BSA's are low end. Zeiss, Leupold, Bushnell...theres your high end manufacturers... Of course...one scope can end up costing more than your rifle...but dammit...you'll hit what you aim at.  |
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Post by xaos on May 19, 2004 18:06:19 GMT -5
...so long as the wind isn't blowing, the bb hits the hop-up bucking just right, is perfectly spherical, and you actually know how to aim. |
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Post by AHalo on May 19, 2004 19:07:55 GMT -5
spending a lot of money on a scope for your aeg is pointless. A high end scope is not going to improve your accuracy, and take into account what xaos said because a plastic bb isnt even going half as fast, straight, or far as a real firearm. and when i said BSA i meant their red dots are good. anyways i say if you have no intention of spending you life savings on high-end optics, buy that red dot, and when it fails you wont be so upset about the money you just lost.
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Post by Zorak on May 19, 2004 19:15:05 GMT -5
I disagree somewhat... spending a lot of money on a high-end scope will not be a good value for most people, but that doesn't make it a waste. High-end scopes tend to be more reliable, more robust, and optically superior. None of them can magically compensate for wind, range, or all the other difficulties that beset airsoft, but they do give you a very reliable place to start when compensating for those factors.
I've found that if I just shoulder my gun, point, and shoot, I'm hopeless. If I use the sight (I have an Eotech), I can get close, and more importantly, I gain consistency. If I miss my first shot, I can figure that I missed so much left and so much low, pick an aiming point a similar amount right and high, and get on to the target.
For other people with more natural ability, this may just be nonsense. In my experience it's similar to archery - if you can learn to be efficient with a bow, you can learn how to point-shoot an airsoft gun accurately. If, like me, you found the bow utterly mysterious and went back to Daisy air rifles, a sight might be helpful to you.
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Post by AHalo on May 19, 2004 19:27:57 GMT -5
yeah, just buy whatever scope you think you will sufficient for what you need/do. if you are like zorak then maybe the high end is for you, but if you just would like something a little better than ironsights the $30 scope might be a good choice.
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Post by xaos on May 19, 2004 22:53:32 GMT -5
Well, outta curiosity, I went out and played around with some red-dots today. For reference, I've got a G&P replica aimpoint on my SD5, and I love it to death.
I looked at a couple BSA red dots, and, quite frankly, they sucked. My aimpoint replica is *vastly* superior, something I did not expect. The BSA just did not compare...the dot was poor...fuzzy and misshapen, and very prone to parallax...my G&P will get some parallax, but nothing near the two BSA scopes I looked at...moving a fraction of an inch would put the dot out of my field of vision...which is simply unacceptable to me, as I use my red dot most when attempting to move and fire.
I also toyed with an Aimpoint Comp ML2, and the thing baffled me. Not only was the dot perfect, and in the right spot at all times, but the batteries are also good for 1,000-10,000 hours (per the manufacturer)...compared to about 8 hours max on the batteries in my G&P scope. If and when I purchase another red dot scope for my airsoft armory, it will be an Aimpoint, price be damned.
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Post by Zorak on May 19, 2004 23:10:39 GMT -5
FYI, if you can live without the circular form factor, I'd recommend the Eotech. I have both, and the Eotech wins hands-down on visibility. Not only is the circle-dot easier to acquire, it can go from night vision compatible to hella bright in one unit. The Aimpoints can be had bright or night-vision compatible, but not both. In regard to battery life, the Eotech can run on AAs, and while it chews them faster, they're just AA's. Replace them when the reticle flashes and you're good to go. Furthermore, unlike the Aimpoints, the Eotech can shut itself down automatically and thus avoid devouring batteries in your closet. Finally, while I don't know where either does their manufacturing, Aimpoint is in Sweden and Eotech is in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
The Aimpoint does look cooler, though.
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Post by Zorak on May 19, 2004 23:13:46 GMT -5
if you just would like something a little better than ironsights the $30 scope might be a good choice. A cheap red dot may not be better than iron sights. Remember the issue of parallax. Without careful optical parallax correction, the red dot will "move" as your head moves. It's no more accurate than using your front sight and ignoring your rear sight. In fact it ends up being worse, because with iron sights, you know when your sight alignment is correct. With a bad red dot, you have to just hope you have your head in the same spot it was in when you zeroed the weapon. |
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Post by Rambostyle032 on May 20, 2004 8:26:58 GMT -5
well thanks guys i dont think ill run into to much of a parallax problem cuz i use a cheeck plate.
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Post by xaos on May 20, 2004 16:39:19 GMT -5
Using a cheek rest doesn't really matter. You're not always going to hit it exactly the same...it may not seem like much, but it can, and will, affect your accuracy. Just remember, you really do get what you pay for when purchasing optics, especially red-dots. On a slightly off-topic note, I wouldn't mind the EOTech sight...other than the fact that I find reflex-style sights extremely ugly. While I'm sure it's just as functional as an Aimpoint, and definitely has it's plusses, I'm too much of a whore to how my gun looks to use one |
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