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Post by Mosin on Sept 25, 2007 13:55:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I think if a killrag cant be worn, the gun should be above your head. Mirage and I don't usually roll with Killrags, but we hold our guns above our head when we walk back, the sad thing is... At Second Front, our guns were completely raised, and we were lit up, then the kid goes "Oh, I thought you were in".
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Post by Timm on Sept 25, 2007 14:04:33 GMT -5
Mosin, i was on that ridge peninsula later that day. Laying down........
*Realization hits* Awwwwwww crap.
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Post by Mosin on Sept 25, 2007 14:10:19 GMT -5
I have nothing else to say, no worries. It was down off the side of the ridge, kinda where Dead Prez was at when he was sniping some people.
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LT.Monk
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Post by LT.Monk on Sept 25, 2007 17:50:57 GMT -5
At second front Mosin. That was two of the new rats. They were new at the time only second Op. I talked to both of them and it has never happened again. Sorry about that... I was right there chatting with you and Mirage at the time and couldn't believe it. But John.... You only remember the ones where you make it out or almost make it out. Let me see I remember at verino the claymore incident that Deacon Timm ,who was on your team set.... Rremember you tripped backwards and got the shower of power up the back of your bare legs lmao your Sing and dancing "I got his gun" BAM!!! your dead
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Post by Son on Sept 25, 2007 18:57:44 GMT -5
It was op silent dawn and me and a rebel buddy of mine were walking to our spawn and someone captured us do to the rediculous rule that you can capture prisoners even though they are dead. So we cooperated and after about an hour , he told us to go to our rebel comanders and tell them to give them the cocaine. Instead canto came back with us and I had a nbb glock under my tac vest then when it was only junior and some other kid left we we opened fire and owned both of them, then at the same time we killed them, half of the government team was respawning and saw what happened so they opened fire but before i died I did manage to kill someone with my pistol then took about 10 shots imediately to the helmet. Might i mention we were also captured by junior any way
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Post by operatordoc01 on Sept 26, 2007 14:30:26 GMT -5
Well Heres my thing shy search them, It just causes a securoty issue for your team. Shoot them. No worries
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Post by Mosin on Sept 26, 2007 21:16:02 GMT -5
I think generally speaking, you should just be able to ask them if your unsure. It's more looked down upon IMO if they lie after you tell them, because I remember when someone asked Mirage at "Silent Dawn" (Wasn't there, but heard the story) they asked to take his gun, and Mirage totes a $1,000+ gun. So he just did the honorable thing and racked it, shot the round into the dirt, and ejected the mag. When I was the general of the peace keeping force at Rolling Thunder I asked that any prisoner remove their mag and fire two-three rounds into the air because I didn't want to have my men putting their hands on people like it was real life.
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Post by SkyPilot on Sept 27, 2007 17:28:47 GMT -5
Personally, I will never give up my rife to someone. I'll clear the chamber, eject the mag and carry my rifle.
Something I noticed, is when someone called for a medic, the other team would capture them. But the person never blood out. So, a wounded person became captured and never healed.
I think rather than saying 'bang' then capturing them (which would count as a kill), a simple 'capture' should be good enough....if you are in arms range.
Remember if you are wounded, and then captured. You still need a medic, otherwise you bleed out!
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Post by Яoman on Sept 27, 2007 21:38:06 GMT -5
Personally, I will never give up my rife to someone. I'll clear the chamber, eject the mag and carry my rifle. Something I noticed, is when someone called for a medic, the other team would capture them. But the person never blood out. So, a wounded person became captured and never healed. I think rather than saying 'bang' then capturing them (which would count as a kill), a simple 'capture' should be good enough....if you are in arms range. Remember if you are wounded, and then captured. You still need a medic, otherwise you bleed out! Would this require medical attention from the enemies medic? 30second count-time for the enemy wounded. And it would be hard to just say "captured" I can see if you did a "Surrender" instead of a "Bang" than you can then become captive. A simple voice command to let them know they could be fired upon. Ect. I always yell bang. And I yell it more than once if the person doesnt hear me. I dont want to break the engagement limits. But without a sidearm I either ask them politely to surrender and accept the "bang" as a hit or I will fire a shot at them in the gear. Further discussion needs to be involved. I like where you going with it skypilot but more needs to be discussed.
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Post by Relarz on Sept 27, 2007 23:34:33 GMT -5
i like that idea. i understand people yelling bang and such, i've seen my fair share of "'PLAYER SURRENDER!' 'NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!' *whirclikclikclikclikclikclik." if someone says Bang at you, take a second, realize what just happened, and call for a medic/go respawn. if someone tells you to surrender, de-mag your weapon, lay it down, and reach for the sky. if a player gets to a position where there is no chance of you defeating him (i.e. muzzle to the back), your his POW now. accept your defeat, and begin planning your escape
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Post by Thor on Sept 28, 2007 13:17:13 GMT -5
I say, if you're captured by the enemy, be as much of a nusuiance as possible. Yell gibberish, profanities, insults towards their mothers, and the like. Oh, and be sure to whip out your junk and waggle it at them. Maybe even throw some feces. [sarcasm][end/sarcasm]
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Post by Mosin on Sept 28, 2007 14:24:49 GMT -5
I guess that type of stuff should be enforced pre-game. It should be known that if you are taken prisoner the other team has the right to search you if nessisary, I think if it isn't mentioned before hand it shouldn't be allowed, and you should be able to just take the persons word for it. Then again, there is two sides to this that I see. I could understand the whole rush of escaping and whatnot, but I mean seriously. If your walking right into someone and they clearly have a drop on you at all times and you pull out some lame thing to do, then it's frowned upon.
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Post by Relarz on Sept 28, 2007 16:02:02 GMT -5
well yeah, run if you want too, your just gonna get shot. if someone like skypilot creeps up on you and says surrender or bang, take the hit/lay down your gun. but if you are captured, you should be taken to an enemy base somewhere, where you can then escape from. your weapon should be stored somewhere that someone like a ref can see, and monitor. that way, the chance of someone getting your gun with the five finger discount is gone, and you have an extra set of objective (get teh gun back, return to "friendly lines"; both of which would be optional as you could just wait for your team to come save you, because you lack testicular fortitude or something) my 2 cents.
on another note, i think canto was able to go without getting searched was because they were afraid to touch his tra-la-la
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Post by Gestapo on Sept 29, 2007 12:51:38 GMT -5
It's not a good idea to take El Phantasamo hostage...... He'll just beat your ass, take your gun, shoot you in the chest, and then you will both laugh about it
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Post by Sniper Wolf on Oct 1, 2007 17:03:31 GMT -5
Personally, I agree 100% with Arc on the whole "Not touching the outher guy's shit" part. Personally, I dont wanna be responsible for their gear, and I sure dont want someone pawing up my weapons and equipment. When captured, I'll de-mag and safe my weapons and all that jazz, throw 'em on slings and be a rather compliant hostage, because when captured (I've always thought) you are basically dead, they're just extending you the courtesy of not blasting you at point blank range.
Now, should someone tell me they need to hold onto my stuff for me, I'll tell them they're either going to have to shoot me, Bang kill me, or I'm going to pull my rubber knife and start fighting back. The same is the case for those people who decide handcuffing their hostages is a good plan. I dont like people handling my shit, and I dont like being tied up, cuffed, zip-tied, etc.
I, as well as my teammates have always played that surrender is the same as a death.
Now, should I take a prisoner, I wont pat the guy down and make sure he doesnt have a spare gun strapped to his schlong. Instead, I make 'em get on their knees, hands on their heads in plain view, interrogate them on the spot, and then bang/ knife kill them to avoid all the other BS that follows keeping hostages.
Keep it simple. I came out to shoot at people who came out to shoot at me. I dont think I should have to worry about physical scuffles over a prisoner trying to take my gun and get free or having to strip search each prisoner in order to make sure everyone plays honestly, but that's just my 2 cents on the matter.
-Wolf
On a side note- As mosin pointed out, there are players who refuse to answer when askedto Identify themselves or indicate alive or dead status. That says to me they dont mind being shot again, alive or dead or what have you.
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