Oi, nobody has it because it's really new. And even then they couldn't tell you about longevity, because it's new. VSR and Maruzen are not the same. You can't slap Maruzen parts in a VSR.
And I can't remember exactly what Livonia said when I pulled apart the last VSR I worked on, but I believe it was something like "never again."
I'm not persistently telling you not to buy it for fun. You can purchase a clone AEG that will be decent for cheap. But you just cannot do the same with a "sniper". They have to be made of quality material because of the pressure they are under with the high powered springs. The hopup and trigger are likely the first to break. And don't think b/c they are metal they are stronger than the plastic ones. Cheap cheap metal is worse than a solid plastic, which is what they impliment into the clones to keep costs down.
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, maybe I should just give up and let all the kiddies buy the cheapo's and then put em up in the commerce section a few months later.
If I like sniping as much as I think I will then I will shoot for a SWAT Marksman.
El oh el.
You seem to be under the impression that airsoft "sniping" is remotely close to real steel. You are quite quite mistaken. The two are nothing alike. If you want to be a SWAT Marksman, and haven't gone through training yet... you may want to stay away from airsoft "sniping" for it will teach you some bad habits that will be hard to break.
No some people do have the AGM, it's not that new. A few threads down GaRchow has one, and though it's only been 2 odd months it will give an idea of what AGM has produced, first impressions hold a lot. I didn't say anything about just slapping in Maruzen parts, a changeover like that would require massive amounts of work (something I enjoy). I also realize that just because it say it's metal doesn't mean it's quality, I've seen people pass of Zinc castings (which are extremely fragile) for metal (which they are) parts.
No you are not beating a dead horse, just not perhaps helping. I am not just some kiddie buying a cheapo and planning to sell it. If I buy, it either lasts or leaves me with a way to upgrade/fix/replace.
P.S. I don't care about a scope, if it doesn't come with one and saves a bit that's fine, I have my own scope, or a better one in mind.
Ok screw it you say UTG? Alrighty. The UTG is a rebrand, there seems to be some confusion of exactly which brand has been taken. Some say Well, some say AGM, going on the opinion that AGM is crap, Well isn't exactly a great name either.
So it would seem there are two choices, the: Well: Warrior 1 UTG: MK96
We are trying to help you. And you can find all the brands you listed for sale. Just because they dont sell it on one site doesnt mean you cant find it on another.
We are trying to guide you in the right direction. A few months isnt OLD at all. The weapons we say are reliable ARE RELIABLE because they have withstood the beatings they have and still performed to a reliable standard. I didnt write all of that in the previous posts because I was trying to get "Another sniper n00b" out of the way I did it because I was once in your situation and I took the advice of others and it helped a lot.
Now sorry to use "l33t sp3apk" But either take the knowledge and STFU or do what you want and GTFO and leave us alone with your questions. You have seen the repetitive replies because we all are telling you possible the best answer to your question.
Either Save up and get the Maruzen OR buy the UTG package.
Same as before. You dont have to follow these directions/instructions because where not paying and playing with the rifle, you are. So it comes down to this, do you want to listen to the people before you and avoid the mistakes that have already been made or do you want to save some extra cash, time, and frustration and do what youve been instructed is the best way possible for you to go on this route.
Go with a UTG L96. I started sniping on a UHC super 9. It may break and not keep up but if anything you will have something to get the feel for sniping with until you can afford better. In a CQB game at pegasus wind I took on 3 AEG's with my PT 111 millineum spring pistol(chronoed 101 FPS) and won. I was just stealthy. Buy what you can afford make due. Personally as far a a spring rifle clone not able to outrange an AEG as mentioned earlier I highly disagree from both the sheer physics and my some 8 years of experience in the sport with $7500 worth of guns and gear. MOST marui AEG's chrono between 250-275 FPS stock with a .2 bb. Now if this rifle fires at 450 or lets just discount to 350 for arguments sake and we fire the same .2 bb out of a longer barrel(at least in most cases) how is that bb not going to go as far as what the marui would? momentum carried is a ratio of weight/velocity often referred to as energy typically in units of measure such as ft./lbs. Accuracy and dependability would be the next big argumentative stances. UTG seems to be of decent quality however at this velocity a stress load on a plastic trigger unit would arise suspicion that it will not hold long term. Probably true. So you spend a $100 when this happens and buy a kingman leight weight trigger unit which goes in.(check airsoft retreat for this parts compatabilty listing.) Add in a tightbore barrel and you have a rifle that should hold for a considerable amount of time and fire with exceptable accuracy given it is an airsoft gun. For potentail flamers I'll stop you in your tracks buy saying no this is not a Maruzen equivelent however for a budget it will put something into your hands that will behave well enough for you to get a feel for sniping and have some fun until you can afford better. I personally would go with a maruzen but thats because I have too much money to spend. In your case I think the UTG would be the best route for you given you are on a budget and really want to give sniping a try.
Tex your cursed man I have nothing else to say Finished up a match yesterday, cleaned up my AEG, and blew out the gearbox. BB jammed, looks like I broke a gear........ So for th time being no new rifles. If anyone has a good deal on a CA vIII gearbox let me know I'm now in the market.
rabbit: catchup with the thread man. I already know what's a good rifle, I just wanted an opinion if anyone had tried the AGM variant. Anyways it's all moot now, $70 for a new CA gearbox (best option probably) and depending on the gear I broke a tune up/replacement kit could get me back in the game with minimal expense.
Delta: Like I said there's something about the whole single shot thing I prefer, the range not get any better, but I just can't seem to get used to just a sqeeze-the-trigger-blow-em-away kinda gun.
somehow I knew you'd say that. No, I'm very pleased with how the gun held up. a good full year off of $80 isn't bad at all IMO, considering how much abuse I gave it I'm pretty happy (a bit pissed that I screwed it over cleaning it though).
As for the gearbox. $70 for a quality gearbox (motor and all) I could go that route (even comes with a M120 spring) On the other hand like you said I could just get the gears, etc On another note, AGM did do one screwy thing to the gun is the use of an AK style hopup, I'll probably end up replacing that with a new one just to be safe.
Not really sure what's wrong with an AK hopup... and where are you getting this gearbox from? $70 is scary cheap, as in, something is wrong with it cheap. And if it's just "used" then, that's even worse, you never know what kind of damage the previous user could have done to it.
Remeber this is my XM8 I'm sure you know the XM8 history, but anyways it is based off the H&K G36, I know at least some XM8's come with the normal G36 hop-up. For some odd reason though the AGM has an AK style hop-up. Nothing wrong with it I suppose, just strange......
Yeah $70 is cheap, it's an odd story really. I had a 6v6 CQB match Sunday, halfway through my buddy with is Marui 36C fried his motor, since I tore up my gear he's offered to sell me the gearbox cheap while he gets a new upgraded box set. Since the thing only has 2000 odd rounds through it........ again though could always save and spend a few bucks on just the gears, but I worry do about the cylinder after all that..