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Post by Mirage on Sept 28, 2007 0:03:28 GMT -5
Mosin took the counter sniper role to a whole new level. normally, he runs as my spotter. so with Mosin being Mosin, he went out and made a chart of how many mil-dots i would have to adjust my scope depending on the distance and windspeed. it definately works, as he has told me a couple estimates and when i took the shot, they were pretty much dead on.
probably not necessary, but a nice thing to have.
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Post by O'Dwah on Sept 28, 2007 11:52:51 GMT -5
That makes sense actually, but as a airsoft sniper you should be able to know your gun better than anyone out on the field.
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Post by Mosin on Sept 28, 2007 15:05:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but I just used basic mathmatics and common sense to figure if a gun is sighted at 50 yards with no wind, what the nessicary adjustments would be for say, 15 mph wind coming in at your 9 o' clock trying to hit a target about... 70 yards out. That adjustment would mean aiming up one and 1/2 mils and moving right 3.33 mils . It should put you spot on with your target, and, when your a sniper and you only have one shot, it's a really nice thing to just be able to look at that sheet and know you can hit a man sized target everytime with it. Better than shooting, seeing where it goes, racking again, and shooting again I think.
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Post by Gestapo on Sept 28, 2007 19:33:45 GMT -5
Wow.. wouldn't be a bad idea of setting something up like that with Livonia, although he pretty much knows where every shot is going to land already......
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Post by O'Dwah on Sept 28, 2007 21:22:50 GMT -5
Good point Mosin, for a second I was doubting you, haha.
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Post by Mosin on Sept 30, 2007 19:49:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I've already used it with Livonia. I haven't really went directly to it, but we have tested it in the field and so far it hasn't let me down, I'm thinking about making a printed version and selling it to kids who want to know where their guns shoot at different distances.
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Post by Dutton on Oct 14, 2007 15:47:03 GMT -5
For all of you that want to see the power behind a fully upgraded Maruzen Type 96 sniper rifle here is it. These shots are being made from about 40yrds away with a .30bb www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLJGRX1JRgenjoy There is only one way that I have been able to replicate this test, and even then, if you were truly at 40 yards, I was completely unable to replicate it. I dropped my largest spring into my M24 and tested first from 25 feet, 2 shots into the bottle with not so much as a scuff. I moved up to 15 feet, and shot, the bottle shattered the first shot. I used the same Bud bottle as you, as well as a .3g bb, and the only way I could replicate the shot was from 15 feet. Just so you're aware of what velocity my largest spring is capable of, its 565 FPS w/ 3.'s which is 4.43 J of energy. Put that in terms of a .2g bb, that's 692 FPS.
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Post by Mosin on Oct 30, 2007 21:10:59 GMT -5
Interesting stuff. Perhaps his paces were off? or maybe Trooper was right all along.
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Post by operatordoc01 on Oct 30, 2007 22:16:49 GMT -5
For all of you that want to see the power behind a fully upgraded Maruzen Type 96 sniper rifle here is it. These shots are being made from about 40yrds away with a .30bb www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLJGRX1JRgenjoy There is only one way that I have been able to replicate this test, and even then, if you were truly at 40 yards, I was completely unable to replicate it. I dropped my largest spring into my M24 and tested first from 25 feet, 2 shots into the bottle with not so much as a scuff. I moved up to 15 feet, and shot, the bottle shattered the first shot. I used the same Bud bottle as you, as well as a .3g bb, and the only way I could replicate the shot was from 15 feet. Just so you're aware of what velocity my largest spring is capable of, its 565 FPS w/ 3.'s which is 4.43 J of energy. Put that in terms of a .2g bb, that's 692 FPS. As for this test it was a custume spring i had made for this shit. FPS with .25's was 690FPS this was tested at the WMU engineering school. A friend of mine made this spring for a project he was doing for a class. As for the paces Mosin, I am pretty good at knowing my own pace count, had to be for the military for Land Nav.
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Post by Mosin on Oct 31, 2007 9:00:06 GMT -5
Well I mean, if he did the test with a strong spring and was unable to get these results, then how did you?
So something couldn't have been right about it. Also, what spring are you talking about? I thought you shot it with your Maruzen?
Dutton said that his highest spring shot 565 with a .3, and according to my conversion, that's 617.48 with a .25 which is only about 70 FPS off of what your rifle would have shot with a custom spring, and even at that. It wouldn't be enough of a difference to be between simply hitting and bouncing off at 617 FPS or going straight though with 690 FPS. I could be wrong on this, because I don't exactly know mathmatics very well, but I'm pretty sure that 70 FPS isn't going to make a significant difference like that, maybe something in the ranges of 150-200 FPS higher I could see some serious signs of damage. But as of now, either the distance wasn't 40 yards, or something else was in play here.
My personal advice is to do the same thing, only with one continuous camera shot, starting off with you pacing 40 yards out, then setting the camera down range toward the bottle, and shooting it. I guess from just seeing only a view of the bottle, we can't really establish how far out you were.
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Post by redalert on Oct 31, 2007 9:17:41 GMT -5
The energy of the bb goes up exponentially the Higher the fps is because if you graph it it's a parabolic function. So it is possible for these results to happy but then again temperature could play a part in this as well.
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Post by Livonia on Oct 31, 2007 10:03:50 GMT -5
Someone needs to max out an airsoft rifle, somewhere to the point it uses a steel nubbin ;D, not for field use of course.
Lets keep things on topic now guys.
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Post by Snooks27 on Oct 31, 2007 21:35:34 GMT -5
Someone needs to max out an airsoft rifle, somewhere to the point it uses a steel nubbin ;D, not for field use of course. Lets keep things on topic now guys. I have nothing else to say you will just make a pellet rifle haha. But you must remember where the bb hits the bottle is everything. When armour is formed it is made at an angle so it will deflect rounds. With a bb the bottle may have been simply hiting th side areas and deflecting. In the center of the bottle is the most vunerable. Thus, a flat surface. There is a 12g Shotgun shell that shoots jagged pieces instead of bb's, They tear through windows like a bear through skin. Now we just need an armour peircing bb! P.s. i dont think this relates to anything but i wanted to type! I have nothing else to say
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Post by ilagftw on Nov 24, 2007 12:25:25 GMT -5
I got some questions about this.
Stock how smooth is the bolt? How durable is the stock in cold conditions?
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Post by Livonia on Nov 24, 2007 17:54:57 GMT -5
Its really durable, I use mine year round. Out of any other rifle out there, the bolt pull on the Maruzen 96 has got to the be easiest and smoothest.
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