Tokyo Marui SPAS-12 vs. M3 Super 90 SHORTY

[The Axe Murderer]

I am trying to decide which of these guns to purchase, and I have a few questions that would help me decide.

For one thing, I hear that the SPAS-12 has a tad bit more power, and stings a little more... is this true? I also hear that the shorty is a bit more accurate, but thats because less of a spread. So, is the SPAS's spread that bad to where I would miss altogether at a distance, or just to where I couldn't hit like a target or something, but would still hit a person? Cause if this is the case, I would prefer the good spread, so I could take less time to aim, but still know I would most likely land at least one bb on the opponent, which I think would be good for going against AEGs and stuff. I am always hearing that the M3 benelli can definitely hold it's own against AEGs. Is the same true for a SPAS? ANd I also heard that the SPAS is kinda creaky, whereas the Benelli isn't. I would also like to know if that is true, and if the SPAS is any less durable because of it. Durability and lasting power is a big thing because I am short on cash, so if it gets screwed up, I'm boned.

I definitely would like a SPAS-12 tho, because it just looks tite. However, if a Benelli(shorty) would be better, last longer, or give me a better chance in any kind of Airsoft game, from CQB to whatever, I will settle for lesser looks.

Any help would definitely be appreciated.

[leanpocket25]

This should answer every question you have www.airsoftplayers.com/shotguns/shotguns1.asp

[The Axe Murderer]

Actually, I had already read that article. But all the other reviews and threads I read said differently. So tat is why I made this thread on a couple forums.

Thank you anyways though.

[luke213]

Alright I only have a few minutes but I'll try to answer most of you questions. Be aware the information on the SPAS is acedemic as I hate the way it looks;)

The internals should be identical, the power should be the same. I'm unaware of any difference in barrel length which would indicate they should pattern the same. Also when they say the spread is further keep in mind the top barrel is pretty much going to be in the center, so no matter the spread you should have one accurate BB. Reliability is up to the player, it's not something easy to judge, but the good news with owning a benelli is Inferno(guy in hawaii) is a badass with benelli repairs and has a guide or two on his site to fix common problem(most of this should apply to the SPAS but I'm not certain).

Now as far as running a shotgun vs. AEG's. It's freaking hard lacking a better term, and the only advice I can give is get a shitload of shells. I have 3 at this point( by no means a primary gun) but when I ran it as a primary I felt seriously outgunned. All I did was find someone with a gun I wanted to run(we can pick guns off the dead) took them out, then proceeded to finish the round with an M4:) Either way it's not easy and personally I think any AEG would be easier and more fun for a new player. Personally I think I'm gonna run it this weekend just becasue I own it and it would be fun:)


Luke

[The Axe Murderer]

Well, I really don't want an AEG for many reasons. They are more expensive and harder to maintain for one thing. Second, I do not know how to upgrade them and stuff, so I want one that doesn't need to be fooled with. I don't mind having to sneek around and whatnot, or having more of a challenge with a shotgun either. I am pretty good at that sort of thing, and enjoy it. I also am considering a sniper gun. Anything but an AEG or gas gun.

Well, I guess Imma get the SPAS, because it looks hard, and I don't like the barrel jamming issue with the M3s, which I hear even occurs in the "SHorty"s. Though after thinking it through better, I would prefer a full length over a shorty anyways, but again, I don't need my barrel jamming.

Thanks a lot for your help, btw.

[luke213]

Considering the internals are the same I would suggest the prospect that the SPAS can have the same jamming issues. My best guess as to why it's not reported is popularity. The Benelli I would think is at least twice as popular from what I've seen. So you hear half as much bad about the SPAS more less. Anyways, on the need to work on them aspect when you consider rounds fired per maintanence an AEG really is the way to go over damn near everything. My guns have shot countless rounds with very very little work at all. Most of them are kept clean and thats about it, not to mention most TM guns if taken care of should go a good 50,000 rounds without to much issue(if someone disagree's feel free to post thats just what I've seen). So I guess I wouldn't by any means rule out an AEG as a possible gun. I would expect a shotgun either of the TM guns, to wear out at the 30,000 mark, or need some really serious repair. Well and even more than putting numbers on it I would say the TM shotguns per round would wear out much quicker and are damn near impossible to find aftermarket replacement parts for also. I guess it's just me, but I own AEG's, GBB's, and one shotgun. Out of all of them I concern myself with the shotgun most as I got it broken, so I guess at some point it's going to happen again. Just some things to consider, as it really is your decision, just make sure you have all the facts before making it.


Luke


EDIT: Damn just realised this whole time I had written SPAZ rather than SPAS, damn I think I need a nap. Two freaking posts to, I knew something didn't look right when I wrote that;) I have nothing else to say

[The Axe Murderer]

Hmm....thats a rather good point on the "popularity" issue man.

I think though, that I may have read somewhere that it didn't, but I will have to check again. Also, the popularity thing is one of the things that concerns me. I would think it would be more popular for a reason. I was hoping it was just the looks.

And about the AEGs, there is also the issue of price. I checked on them, and most seem to be at least $300 for a good one. I am not willing to spend quite that much yet, especially since I can't even seem to find a team to join anywhere near the Port Huron area. Perhaps once I've been playing a while and am sure it's something I would wanna commit to, but I aint shellin out no big bucks for a gun just yet.

[luke213]

Well reading about airsoft can be quite a tricky game and not everything should be trusted without question. Now hell you don't have to even trust what I say, but understand I do know some things:) Now the reason I said that is because you will see allot of people giving out their version of why and how something happens. As far as the benelli jam issue, I really don't know how it occurs, though knowing some about these guns from opening my benelli, if they are the same which is what everyone has said(forums etc). If thats the case they will both suffer the same jam problem. Though I'm not sure how common it is either, as I've yet to encounter it since I fixed my gun:) A good thing to try would be renting a gun and attending a game and seeing how you like it. And again I would like to say it's hard as shit to run a shotgun against AEG's:)


Luke