Spring Pistol test data

[Delta]

I have owned here and tested many spring pistols and often people ask which one to buy so I will post the data I collected from my tests for you to decide.

UHC berreta
Max indoor range: 90 feet
Outdoor Range: 70 feet
Accuracy: 25 feet/ 2 3/8" group 40 feet/ 4 1/4" group
(indoor tested the accuracy)

this gun is durable but needs to be cocked fast to prevent chamber jamming. Sights are slightly left and up out fo box and aren't adjustable.

UHC desert Eagle:
Max indoor range: went further than I could mark which is over 100 feet.
Max outdoor range: slight winds it flew over 100 feet as well fairly straight too using .12
Accuracy: 25 feet/ 7/8" group. 40 feet/ 2 3/4" group
indoor tested

very nice gun shoots .2's very good as well and its best thing other than its performance is that its virtually noiseless so its very quiet. Very nice buy for $20.

TM Glock:
indoor range: can't measure it goes too far. Best guess AEG MP5 equal to this.
outdoor range: just over 175 feet not arched.
Accuracy: 25 feet/ 1 1/16" 40 feet/ 2 1/4" 75 feet/ 6 3/8"

This sidearm is the best I have seen. I would say this is definatly the best sidearm on the market in spring guns that is.

KWC DE50:
indoor range: exceeds limit goes far
outdoor range: 180 feet
accuracy: 25 feet/ 3/4" 40 feet/ 3 1/2" 75 feet/ 8/3/8"

next best to glock however its loud and not as smooth and straight of a shot as the glock in my opinion. still a very worthy sidearm but for the cash get the glock and a mag or two instead.



I have many other models but didn't post for either I haven't tested yet or don't feel they are worthy of even posting. I will list them so you can PM me with questions on them if you are considering buying.

HFC P99
HFC tac berreta with compensator
UHC USP
PT 111 millineum. (actually very small yet very good. better than a UHC berreta. listed with .12's but you need .2's with the hop up.)
UHC Ruger
TM berreta(same as glock almost exactly)
UHC CZ75
UHC tombraider

rifles
UHC MP5 SD3
HFC XM 177
L85 A1
HFC M16
UZI cheap brand it sucks



PS. Oh just so everyone knows if they were wondering the groups were 3 shot groups for all tests with recommended high grades for each gun.



New Test Data Results:

HFC P99:
indoor range: 75 feet
outdoor range: 60-75 feet (winds effect a lot)
accuracy: 25 feet/ 1 3/4" 40 feet/ varied a lot best was 6 1/4"


This gun is heavy and durable but lacks major performance. Also The mag rattles bad making it noisy to carry. And in my opinion the second biggest flaw is that a knob you turn can lock the slide or not lock it, but either way the slide locks back almost every shot. Not recommended for anyone who will be skirmishing with their guns.


HFC Beretta 92 w/compensator and RIS rail:

indoor Range: 85 feet
outdoor range: 85 feet
accuracy: 25 feet/ 1 1/8" 40 feet/ 4/ 3/4"

Basically the gun is great in everyway except the shots flight. For some wicked reason even after the gun is broken in the BBs have this bad curve to the left. Its like firing a paintball when the barrel has paint in it making it go all over. Basically its rather consistent considering this but still takes lots of getting used too and .2's don't cure the curve either. Looks great though and the RIS can have added accessories. I would go UHC over this but if you like unigue looks more than performance this is your gun.


UHC USP and Tombraider

indoor range: 100+ feet
outdoor range: 100+ feet
accuracy: 25 feet/ 1" 40 feet/ 3 1/4"

overall very nice however you will notice that the hop up is a little strong for .12's so you get some extra lift. Still use the .12's because you sacrifice much performance with .2's in this particular gun. Nice buy durable. USP fans here it is unless you want the great performance then get the TM USP which is the same mechanically pretty much but fires .2's the same as the TM glock.


PT 111 millineum:

indoor range: 90 feet
outdoor range: 90 feet
accuracy: 25 feet/ 5/8" (very impressive) 40 feet/ 2 3/4" 75 feet: 7"


Very nice and so small it fits in pocket so you can still carry your normal sidearm. Only about $12 and is awesome. Virtually noisless when it fires. Its listed with use of .12's advertised but you will need .2's. the 12's go straight up. I would recommend this to absolutley everybody.




more to come soon.

[frostee]

Nice work Delta, I stickied it so newbies will have a chance to read it.

[Delta]

Thanks I just see so many which pistol do I buy posts and everyone seems to like something different and steer them all over so I just figured if I did hard fact tests they could decide by seeing the guns performance / personal preferance. Personally accuracy is my big thing but some people like range, and some just go by looks. If I could reccomend a gun to everyone its the PT millineum 111. That things hoots pretty fricken accurate and with decent range. But its so small you don't have to have it as a sidearm it just fits in any pocket really away, and its only like 10 bucks.

[DE50man]

yep, you have stopped some n00bs from posting, but if everyone made it that way the mods would be out of a job, so keep it up stupid n00bs

[luke213]

Nope he didn't stop noobs from posting. It'll still happen as much as before but now we can say hey go look at this thread. The curse to noob's is that they don't read anything, in light of that they likely won't read this either.


Luke

[DE50man]

well that is true, but at least everyone will be able to say, look up stupid, there it is, stickied

instead of saying search or anything i guess, anyway, i think its a good contribution

[luke213]

I agree:) Just stating the inherent behavior of noobs:)


Luke

[Ice]

Hey delta you might as well add the rest of my guns and anybody else you can think.... the krinkov, Mark 23, Spas 12, "riot control shotgun",

[Delta]

Yeah I need to conduct actual tests yet with these models and more though. I can tell you right now if they are all worth or not worth buying and general performance but I want to be very accurate and specific so people know what they buy. I sit with the gun rested and fire 3 shot groups and do range tests measured so my data is very close. I just hate saying its good or bad. I'll let them make the call. In the next few days I have a few more results to be posted. I'll just edit my first post so I don't post a million times because you know how often I buy spring pistols and rifles. Yeah I know I'm an idiot *sometimes* The SD3 is coming soon but I need to borrow Joshes XM I gave him since that gun is awesome I want the results up.

[Dawg Bait]

Nice work delta.. I am thinkin about getting a spring pistol for the hell of it.. I am tied between a Glock or a Beretta.. Cant choose.. I have nothing else to say...



Ross
Punisher

[Delta]

Well if we are talking TM spring pistols go with the glock. You see performance is almost identical but the problem lies in sometimes the TM berettas when cocked like to let the BB roll out of the barrel. I think they over lube the seal or its not tight enough. I found this happened to me about 40% of the time I cocked it and it didn't go away with time either. Possible just my was a freak but from my experience with the berettas malfunction in loading I would chose the glock. Also the glock has a slighty lighter cocking pull to it making recocking slightly quicker. Also the slide is very easy to take of the glock, one screw in the sites so you can repaint over the orange or change color of slide. I have a gold, black, and silver slide I interchange all of the time. I can gaurentee the glock will never let you down. In fact I believe I let you fire mine so you know the performance stats don't lie. Its a very impressive gun. Just my 2 cents.

[Dawg Bait]

Yes yes u did let me and it was nice.. I just not into spring pistols but i am planning on getting one for the heck of it... Just like if its to cold out side to use my KJW Beretta, Shes in storage right now.. to cold out for her.. I have nothing else to say.. Thanks for your words of springer pistol wisdom.. I think i will get a glock...


Ross
Punisher

[HnD]

luke2133 said:

I agree:) Just stating the inherent behavior of noobs:)


Luke

hay now i am a noob to airsoft but the first question i asked here was about buying a TM M92FS and upgrading it. Thanks to knief i got a KJW full metal and love it and now onto a TM Desert Eagle, with a CA M15A4 on the way. that was only three months ago. not all noobs ask questions like that. now all i need is a team

[luke213]

Well look at it this way, today we got a "which is the best gun" thread, this means that newbs are not reading the FAQ, nor really paying attention to where they post. So yeah there are behaviors associated with being a newb, one is also bringing up really dead threads. I don't care all that much but it does get annoying, and I try to be helpfull when I tell a newb to read or something. I have been known to get pissed from time to time, but for the most part I try to be nice to newbs:)


Luke

[xaos]

Luke's too dern nice sometimes

To contribute to the thread a bit...

There's a big, big list of performance data for springers out there somewhere. I can't remember if it was a post/article at ASP or at Arnie's...but one of the two, I'm pretty sure If I can hunt it down, I'll link it here.