Post by TurtleBoyPW5 on May 20, 2003 21:55:40 GMT -5
well im goin to buy a spring shotgun eventually... right now im thinkin a marui m3 super 90 or the m3 shorty any differences besides the stock? im not that big of a person and dont think i can get the full value of super 90.............and im goin to be playin springer only outdoor games...so the shorty may work.. what do u think? thanx
It’s been a long time since I have had my M3 Shorty and Minky his regular M3. Internally, even inner barrel length, the two guns are identical. The only difference is one has a stock and longer outer barrel. That’s it. As for problems, I remember no problems with my shorty, none at all. The only reason one would say the shorty is “harder to aim” is because it’s stockless, for some it would be easier. I preferred the short over the full length one simply because it was small, compact, easy to maneuver, and beyond all else effective. Talk to any of the guys who attended my games last year and they will say I loved that ol’ piece of plastic.
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i would like my M3's stock to have an inch or two less, but having the stock over none is (IMO) a better choice
there is a chop job that some people do that makes their outer barrel shorter while still retaining the stock
and his method:
"I've seen DEN's version of this gun, and the job was a bit sloppy... the cut wasn't clean & even, they had to drill a hole through the magazine tube to screw the front sight in the barrel, etc. Well, before they even came out with theirs, I had chopped mine... the day I got it! All you'll need is a hacksaw, masking tape, a mill file, epoxy or crazy glue, a drill, and some black paint. First, figure out how short you want the gun to be. Now use the hacksaw and cut the barrel & magazine tube about one inch from there. Yank the magazine tube spring out. Put the tape around the barrel & magazine tube nice and tight so it forms a perfect band for you to use as a cutting guide. Make sure that the magazine tube cut is just a little shorter than the barrel cut. Use the hacksaw for the final cut, and finish up with the mill file for a nice, straight edge. Drill a small hole in the barrel, directly centered for the front sight. Now you can use needle-nose pliers to screw the sight in through the barrel, or you can simply epoxy it in place. For the magazine tube cap, shave the two retaining "bumps" on the sides and coat the inside of the magazine tube with epoxy. That way when you slip the cap back in, epoxy won't ooze out the sides. On top of that, you won't have those two ugly holes on the sides. Wad some tissue & stick it in the barrel & paint the bare metal leftbehind from the cut. The tissue will keep paint from getting into the inner barrels. After it dries, pull out the wad & laugh at the guys who bought their M3 from DEN." infernoindustries.iwarp.com/photo6.html
note: the heat-shield on the barrel is a $20 accessory from a mil-surplus shop
Last Edit: May 21, 2003 21:06:11 GMT -5 by Rustpot
Because without some MAJOR modification, you can't remove any length from the stock.
Can't chop from the front, since the pistol grip is attached directly to the stock in that area, and can't chop from the rear without modifying the whole way the stock is secured to the gun. There is a long screw that runs the whole length of the stock, not to mention you'd have to mod the buttpad and plastic peices inside the stock. Check out the exploded diagrams at ASP here: airsoftplayers.com/manuals.asp
As to the full stock vs. shorty... as has been said, the only difference is the stock. The 2 guns share the same internals, so they should perform the same. The deciding factor for me would be the playing area you plan to use the gun most. If it's relatively open with lots of room to move, the full stock would make it easier to aim and cock. If the place is dense and a long gun would get in the way, the shorty would allow more mobility. Of course, you can always just forget about all the practical factors and just go for what you think looks best, which is how I make 90% of my airsoft choices. ;D