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Post by Ghast on May 26, 2015 0:19:27 GMT -5
I can't believe no one's said anything but wouldn't this allow us to reopen the commerce section?
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Post by Simon on May 26, 2015 0:24:51 GMT -5
I have nothing else to say I wish, but proboards ToS is more strict than their local laws where they're based. It wasn't the law that stopped us before. It was the threat of deletion.
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Post by Knief on May 26, 2015 0:33:25 GMT -5
Yep. Proboards didn't make us stop because they believed it to be illegal activity. They choose not to allow the sale of guns, and apparently gun-like things, on boards they own. That's their right, of course, but fuck them for exercising it inconsistently and without regard to precedent.
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Post by Ogre on May 26, 2015 0:46:37 GMT -5
Yep. Proboards didn't make us stop because they believed it to be illegal activity. They choose not to allow the sale of guns, and apparently gun-like things, on boards they own. That's their right, of course, but fuck them for exercising it inconsistently and without regard to precedent. It is there right but it might be worth trying to contact them about it. As much as I love the idea of a new site, all I see is maybe half the community moving over to the site and it further fracturing the community. If we can reopen the commerce section and keep the tradition MiA I would opt for that.
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Post by Zzan on May 26, 2015 8:16:25 GMT -5
Even though we are Michigan based there are people on here that are no longer in Michigan and some that never have been. Local laws are irrelevant. Just because the law favors us in here in Michigan doesn't mean that anyone that signs up for an account and does business in the commerce section has favorable local laws in their neck of the woods. Proboards will not change their stance, they don't care about us individually, they care about brand damage when something happens on or through one of their hosted sites that will look negatively on them as a whole. Their rules are to protect their brand and have nothing to do with our local laws.
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Post by luke213 on May 26, 2015 13:57:29 GMT -5
You also have to look at Proboards and their politics, it's not an issue of legality, it's purely ideology. We run around in the woods with scary looking guns, that's enough to be in their crosshairs. There are some knife forums that were up and deleted overnight you can find reference to online because pointy objects are bad as well. So we're currently on the edge of what they consider acceptable. But tomorrow they could decide that talking about our scary guns is enough to break the TOS and we have zero recourse. That's the main reason I'd like to see MIA stand alone is that we're not under someone else's thumb nor their restrictions on what they decide is acceptable. Right now we're walking a fine line and it could change any day.
Luke
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Post by ordakhan on May 28, 2015 17:53:22 GMT -5
And I thought the major issue/change was that air-soft is now not protected by the constitution and at the state level can be regulated at their own discretion.
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Post by Simon on May 28, 2015 17:58:53 GMT -5
"SB 85 allows for certain local units of government to reasonably regulate the use and possession of “pneumatic guns,” with the exception that these devices cannot be regulated on private property where authorization is given and the possessor takes precautionary measures to ensure that the projectile remains within the bounds of the property." From NRA-ILA article about the "Airgun reclassification package"
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