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Post by muskey on Feb 28, 2015 21:20:53 GMT -5
All right airsofters I pose 2 questions to you. I managed to obtain a custom halo chrono blaster, which I am selling. With the profits I plan on buying my dream gun. I want to go hpa, Now my questions. Do I go with wolverine or polar star? I like wolverine for the idea of being able to put it into different guns, polarstar because known reliability and easily changable nozzles. Second question, what gun to put it into? I want something non m4, non ak. I like short rifles with an off set between the stock and rails (mp5, UAR, ect) I play only cqb(at the moment). If u were me and you had $1200 what would you do?
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Post by Kjones on Feb 28, 2015 21:46:57 GMT -5
The difference between polar star and wolverine are minimal so either will work. Wolverine can be had for about $150 less so that that is a factor too. The gun is up to you, you know what you like so you pick the gun. I personally just put a polarstar into a star SL8 but I dont know if you like that kind of thing.
Before considering HPA you need to determine if you are mature enough to use it. A polarstar/wolverine can be abused if the wrong kind of person is using it. I know I do not want to be hit by 80 rounds traveling 450 FPS.
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Post by Snarf on Feb 28, 2015 23:05:56 GMT -5
VFC 416C
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Post by muskey on Mar 1, 2015 0:14:36 GMT -5
That 416C is pretty sexy, I have always liked minimal stock on a rifle. As to the maturity question it would depend in who you ask. My wife doesn't think I have matured past the age of 10 but the IRS definitely disagrees with her.
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Post by Puma1 on Mar 1, 2015 0:30:54 GMT -5
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Post by Kjones on Mar 1, 2015 0:58:22 GMT -5
I like the FAL but the FAL with the folding stock looks horrible to me and all that tactical garbage is gross too.
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Post by Pagan on Mar 1, 2015 9:35:17 GMT -5
I like the FAL but the FAL with the folding stock looks horrible to me and all that tactical garbage is gross too. Good thing it's not for you then. :-)
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Post by Kjones on Mar 1, 2015 12:30:05 GMT -5
That is why I said he needs to pick the gun he likes, everyone likes different guns. Good thing there is tons of variety.
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Post by TheEnd on Mar 1, 2015 14:44:42 GMT -5
Dream HPA build and no mention of Daytona Gun?
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Post by muskey on Mar 2, 2015 6:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by Zinger on Mar 2, 2015 7:39:42 GMT -5
If I were you, I'd probably just wait for the Polar Star F1 engine to come out. I don't think it's too far out, and if I remember correctly, it should be compatible with most gearbox types. So you could put it in practically any gun. It'll probably be the best option for what your looking for.
I also agree with what @theend said, you should at least look into a Daytona Gun and see if it is something you might like.
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Post by Foxhound on Mar 2, 2015 9:08:46 GMT -5
Definitely look into a DaytonaGun and see if that's something for you or not.
Right now I would say to hold off until the Wolverine Hydra or the PolarStar F1 are released and see if either of those engines are more of what you're looking for. I can't really make a clear suggestion as to a SMP or P* since I only have a SMP at the moment.
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Post by Gunny87 on Mar 2, 2015 13:04:27 GMT -5
If you want an HPA MP5, then you do have some options. You can convert an MP5 AEG and drop in an SMP or a Fusion Engine. Both Squirrel and myself own SMP MP5s. I think the SMP is easier for this specfici conversion because all you have to do is gut the MP5's V2 gearbox, drop in the SMP cylinder and trigger board and screw it back together, where-as the latest gen Fusion engine requires you to remove the selector plate and mechanical safety and transplant that to fit in the fusion engine. But you can easily get nozzles for both systems for an MP5. Most MP5 nozzles use the same length as a M249 length air nozzle. Tony Rizzo did a limited batch of Daytona Gun MP5s using Classic Army MP5's if I recall, but he's not making them anymore to my knowledge. You can also still buy a new classic JAC MP5 on ebay for $300. Although I'm not sure how easy it is to source replacement parts and extra magazines for them. Although it uses CO2 and I'm not really familiar if they should use HPA vs CO2. www.ebay.com/itm/JAC-MP5-SD5-Japan-BV-Classic-Airsoft-Gas-Gun-Semi-Auto-2-3-Round-Burst-NIB-RARE-/350984510235
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Post by muskey on Mar 2, 2015 13:41:06 GMT -5
the Hydra dosen't seem like something i will need, it looks to be mostly for platforms with an off set nozzle. And i dont plan on buying a P90 anytime soon. And as much as everyone seems to hate on the APS UAR i really like mine, before the trigger broke it was prob the most comfortable accurate rifle ive used in a long time. So If i go with the SMP (if i am reading correctly) with a few replacement parts i should be able to run it in both UAR and MP5 platforms
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Post by Gunny87 on Mar 2, 2015 15:17:47 GMT -5
If you intend on dropping in the SMP into your UAR, I would advise that you do some research first to make sure that you're good before making the purchase if that's what you're intending on adding to. Otherwise you'll have an SMP that you'll need to put into something else.
Additionally you'll need the correct length air nozzle which sounds like it might use an AK length air nozzle but you'll want to measure the length of the current nozzle (correctly) and see if the AK air nozzle is a match or if you'll need another length. Both Rudy from Bingo Airsoft Works and Tony Rizzo from TNK Guns will cut specific length Fusion Engine and SMP air nozzles if you give them the specifications.
You will also want to compare the trigger from the UAR to the V3 trigger board of the SMP to make sure that they are compatible. If the UAR uses the same trigger set up (inside the gearbox) as the AK, then you will be fine. Otherwise you may run into an issue right there.
You may also run into other issues with nozzle alignment going into the hop up not being centered which can lead to problems with using the SMP and make it almost useless in some applications. Again, see if it's been done before or ask in the Wolverine SMP Users Facebook group and hopefully they can give you a better idea.
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