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Post by Raptor on Dec 16, 2014 20:26:16 GMT -5
So I'll be attending my first Lion claws event down in Indiana (Operation Homeland May 28th-May31st). This will be my first event that is longer than 1 day so i'm clueless on what I'd need to bring/gear to have. The reason i'm asking so early is so I can start to purchase the items that will be needed to survive, so can some of you Lion claws veterans give me some advice?
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Post by Gabriel on Dec 16, 2014 20:52:41 GMT -5
My friends and I went to TOP in November, so I would say, keep it simple. You don't need every piece of gear for every contingency. Something important to remember is that a lot of guys leave a "team bag" at the re spawn. So instead of lugging an assault pack with food, extra water, socks, ect around, thrown them in a pack, and leave them by the spawn. When you re spawn, you can usually take a few minuets to grab water, reload, grab some chow, ect. This is my loading list:
IN YOUR CAR: Everything to fix your gun if it goes down Back up gun (1 MINIMUM, preferably 2) Food Water Change of clothes
ON YOUR PERSON: Full Magazine load Water Small Snacks (Beef Jerky, Wheat Snack Bread, ect. Just a little energy boost, you don't need much) 1 Extra Battery Kill Rag Red Chemlight Sidearm (You know if you need one. I literally never drew mine at TOP, so I didn't need one. DMRs and Snipers need them.) Working, Reliable Radio (I cannot stress this enough. You NEED this)
IN YOUR BAG: Food Extra Water 2 extra batteries Extra Ammo/ Magazines (I suggest extra filled magazines, in case you need to re spawn and immediately get back in) Change of Clothes Goggle Anti-fog
If I think of anything else, I'll add it.
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Dec 16, 2014 21:23:37 GMT -5
On top of Gabriel's list id also carry extra money for food or in case of emergency, phone, keys, all the basics essentially aswell as a waiver filled out, ID, and a list of emergency contacts just in case something were to happen. (A list of food allergies, medical conditions, and prescribed medication would be a potential life saver aswell.)
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Post by Gunny87 on Dec 16, 2014 21:46:02 GMT -5
This has been asked a few times on here, but I could only dig up one other thread. miairsoft.proboards.com/thread/44966/planning-multi-day-gameGabriel mentioned a lot of it, but I will elaborate a little. 1. Make sure to bring extra socks. Bring at least one pair for each day. If you have extra boots bring them too. You never know what the weather will be like and it's nice to have a dry pair of socks and even better if you have a spare pair of boots to bring. 2.Extra batteries for everything should be brought. (for your gun, for your torch, for your radio, etc) I have never ran out of batteries on any multi day event that I've been to. At the most, I maybe have gone through one battery in an entire weekend and I mostly run 11.1v or 7.4v 1k mah buffer tube LiPos and I literally have six of them. So I have way more than I need even for a multi day event. I don't think this was mentioned, but bring a god damn map of the AO. This gets posted in the WARNORD at LC OPS and posted before the event, and I can't tell you how many people don't print up at least one copy of the freaking AO and it becomes useless when trying to communicate a location to them. I'm pretty sure Gimpalong put together a guide about what to bring to these. Or he has just replied to them enough times that has convinced me that he SHOULD put together a guide.....
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Post by Casper on Dec 16, 2014 23:12:24 GMT -5
Battery charger for the battery of the gun as well as spare gun and battery.
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Post by Ogre on Dec 17, 2014 7:59:36 GMT -5
Loadout wise, I'd keep the PC as minimalist as possible. You're going to be running around for 2 days and the extra few pounds you can shave from your load out becomes a godsend. Anything you don't need can be kept at spawn with your squad and added to your rig as you think you'll need them.
At BlackSheep in Grayling I ran as little as I could and adapted as the game adapted and it worked really well.
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Post by Gimpalong on Dec 17, 2014 9:33:13 GMT -5
I usually create a packing list for every major, national event I attend. I've copy/pasta-ed it below:
Obviously, some of this stuff is unique to me (HPA stuff), but you can modify it as you go along.
As others have said, the lighter you can get your equipment the better. Since a lot of players attend these events and since the AOs are usually quite large you will probably be shooting less than at a normal game and should have plenty of opportunities to return to an HQ or on-field base. So you don't need to carry everything you own.
Some unusual things that you might not already own:
Chem-lights/glow-sticks - these are handy for marking cleared rooms or simply indicating that you've been hit. I usually try to have red, green and white depending on the event rules. Some events require players to use green chem-lights when they are shot out if they are on green and others require red chem-lights for the red team, but it varies. At Grayling I was resting on the top of a building at night with my gear off trying to catch some sleep and didn't want someone to step on me. So I just cracked a white glow-stick and put it near my head so that people could see where I was.
Clip on battery light - I always bring a battery operated light that clips onto my gear. You can get the red multi-function ones for attaching to bicycles for pretty cheap or shell out more for a V-Light style flasher. These are nice because you can clip when to your gear and if you get shot just flip it on, no rummaging around for a glow-stick. Again, different event companies have different rules for color. Lion Claws events usually require red lights for everyone, while Blacksheep uses green for green dead, and red for red dead.
Weapon light - Always a good idea when you're playing in a dark area. I almost never use mine to illuminate other players, but I sure do use it a lot to navigate. At the Trenton steel mill lights were a literal life saver.
Helmet - I'm not a huge helmet fan, but if you're playing on an AO where you will be indoors or where there could be low ceilings or overhanging equipment, a helmet is a good idea.
Field food - I always carry GUs, clifbars, shot blocks or other easily digestible light snacks. These are great for when you start to drag. They're easy to carry, stuff in a dump pouch and whip out when you have a break in play or are sitting guarding a building. Eating something will also keep you awake if it's 4:00 AM and nothing has happened for 3 hours.
Warmth layer - depending on the time of year or the weather conditions you may want to bring some sort of light jacket, fleece or rain jacket. I usually pack a fleece in addition to a USGI camouflage Goretex. The Goretex jackets can be had for under $60 at surplus stores. The woodland ones are easy to find, so they are a good buy if you consistently run on the woodland team.
Sleep aid - I usually get pretty jittery the night before a big event so I like to take a drowsy anti-histamine to help me catch some ZZZs. Obviously, use common sense when taking any kind of medicine...
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Post by Squirrel on Dec 17, 2014 12:28:35 GMT -5
When attending LC ops, make sure you pay attention to the Event Post on Facebook. John Lu or Greg Brothers will often update you with things you should have there.
For example, for The Ohio Project, they posted required stuff like knee pads and helmets well before the WarnOrd was released.
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Post by Ogre on Dec 17, 2014 15:59:00 GMT -5
Adding on to what Gimp said, about Helmets. If you don't want to run a helmet at the very least run some sort of hat. Its not going to protect you from falling down a ladder but it will help protect your head from getting lit up too close or help prevent getting nasty cut.
Obviously a helmet is a better choice but some protection is better than none.
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Post by Raptor on Dec 17, 2014 19:10:27 GMT -5
I never play airsoft without a helmet after getting a concussion.
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Post by Timm on Dec 19, 2014 22:14:45 GMT -5
I never wear a helmet, but that's cause I usually have a sweet mohawk and a thick skull. Helmets are hot and heavy, and not in the good way. Number one thing I ran out of at Irene was batteries. Followed closely by bbs. Hydrate pre, during, and post op. Alsomake sure you eat thru the op, keep that bloodsugar going.
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Post by Reaper on Dec 22, 2014 21:51:19 GMT -5
Does lion claws require helmets? This is going to be my first as well. Also is there a thread on this LC op?
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Post by Gunny87 on Dec 22, 2014 22:57:04 GMT -5
Does lion claws require helmets? This is going to be my first as well. Also is there a thread on this LC op? No, and No.
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Post by Coldwave on Dec 23, 2014 10:58:56 GMT -5
Bring, (in no particular order) Gatorade, water, cliff bars, nuts, sandwich stuff, bb's, bb's, bb's, batteries, more batteries, charger to charge said batteries, an extra gun, some basic tools to fix main and back up guns, a good attitude, thick skin, two dead rags, two pairs of goggles, all the mags you have (carry 6-8 on you leave the rest in a bag at spawn) and some other stuff that I cant think of. LC games are fun and all but the scenarios are short so it gives you time to sit down and hydrate/carb up.
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Post by Reaper on Dec 23, 2014 11:22:11 GMT -5
Does lion claws require helmets? This is going to be my first as well. Also is there a thread on this LC op? No, and No. okay cool thanks
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