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Post by bagelsocks on Mar 11, 2014 18:40:08 GMT -5
Last Saturday I played Airsoft (is Airsoft a proper noun?) for the first time at Commandos Eastside and had an absolute blast, so i decided to get an Airsoft gun of my own. I'm thinking about getting the Combat Machine M4 Raider but there are two models to choose from. The normal model: www.evike.com/products/33557/And the CQB model: www.evike.com/products/34900/The only difference seems to be that the CQB model has a shorter barrel length a supports and "small" butterfly type battery. From what I've read the barrel length has little/no effect on accuracy, is this true? Also, is the smaller size battery a big deal? I'm currently leaning towards the CQB model. Oh... and... hi guys. This is my first post but I've been using this forum as a major source of my research on getting into Airsoft for a while now, so thanks for the help. PS: I plan on playing both outdoors and indoors. |
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Post by Ogre on Mar 11, 2014 19:06:45 GMT -5
Both will give you the same range and performance so it is really just a preference thing.
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Post by Deuce on Mar 11, 2014 19:25:03 GMT -5
The only difference seems to be that the CQB model has a shorter barrel length a supports and "small" butterfly type battery. From what I've read the barrel length has little/no effect on accuracy, is this true? Also, is the smaller size battery a big deal? I'm currently leaning towards the CQB model. So the difference between the two would be merely cosmetic. The barrel length will moat likely not play as big of a factor as you think, if at all. Also, there wouldn't be a difference between the battery capacity of both guns as far as I know. They both utilize the same buffer-tube and crane stock, ergo same dimensions. Overall, the gun will be a personal preference. I personally like to permanently own a shorter barrel gun as it can be used effectively in both the field and CQB. Also, don't forget that you can always utilize a longer barrel if you want by adding a mock suppressor. This is my first post but I've been using this forum as a major source of my research on getting into Airsoft for a while now, so thanks for the help. Also, welcome to the forum and I'm glad that more than one person uses these threads to get info. Just make sure you read the forum rules so you avoid trouble in the future. |
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Post by Puma1 on Mar 11, 2014 19:42:42 GMT -5
To answer your questions in order: -I have no idea if i's a proper noun. I just do what I want. -Barrel length does affect accuracy, but its such a small difference that you really shouldn't base your opinion off of it. Accuracy has more to do with the quality/bore of the barrel than the length. -A smaller battery is not a big deal, in my opinion. It's physically smaller, and has a lower MAH value (Meaning it will have less shots per battery charge, in very rough terms). A 1600 MAH battery like this one: CLICK ME has lasted me for 75% of most operations and rec games I've been to. If you charge it at lunch you should be fine with the one battery. -If you're leaning towards the CQB version, then go for it. I've seen people use short guns outdoors and indoors with great results. On the other hand, I have yet to see a long gun (Over lets say, a 400mm barrel) do well in a CQB environment. I will tell you though, the standard length is most definitely usable indoors as well. |
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Post by X on Mar 11, 2014 19:55:03 GMT -5
Something worth noting is that both of those guns advertise an FPS >350. You would need to modify either one in order to play indoors.
When it comes to batteries the bigger the better IMO. Higher mAh = More amperage for better trigger response and more capacity to play longer. Obviously though 12V would be a bad idea. Don't do that.
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Post by bagelsocks on Mar 11, 2014 20:18:55 GMT -5
Something worth noting is that both of those guns advertise an FPS >350. You would need to modify either one in order to play indoors. When it comes to batteries the bigger the better IMO. Higher mAh = More amperage for better trigger response and more capacity to play longer. Obviously though 12V would be a bad idea. Don't do that. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards What's the best way to lower the fps? |
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Post by Puma1 on Mar 11, 2014 20:23:06 GMT -5
Change the spring. Unfortunately, there is very very little you can do to lower FPS without opening up the gearbox.
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Post by Squirrel on Mar 12, 2014 5:26:12 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever seen a stock Combat Machine shoot over 350fps. Unless G&G changed what spring they are using, they should be around 330-340.
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Post by Ogre on Mar 12, 2014 6:48:27 GMT -5
Something worth noting is that both of those guns advertise an FPS >350. You would need to modify either one in order to play indoors. When it comes to batteries the bigger the better IMO. Higher mAh = More amperage for better trigger response and more capacity to play longer. Obviously though 12V would be a bad idea. Don't do that. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards They advertise over 350fps but once the spring settles in they are more around the 330-340 mark. Edit: Squirrel's comment wasn't showing up for me. He beat me by an hour. What's the best way to lower the fps? If you don't want to go the spring route, what I have done was put a very shitty bucking, I poked a hole in a madbull blue bucking. That dropped my KWA from 390 to 320. However. I wouldn't say that's advisable due to the escaping air pressure could damage the hop up? (That is pure speculation, I don't know if it will, but I imagine it could). Anyways but thats what I have done in the past. |
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Post by X on Mar 12, 2014 8:57:50 GMT -5
If you don't want to go the spring route, what I have done was put a very shitty bucking, I poked a hole in a madbull blue bucking. That dropped my KWA from 390 to 320. However. I wouldn't say that's advisable due to the escaping air pressure could damage the hop up? (That is pure speculation, I don't know if it will, but I imagine it could). Anyways but thats what I have done in the past. This is a horrible idea. Changing the spring will reduce the stress on the gearbox and maintain compression. What you suggest results in the opposite. You're just making the gun less efficient. That's like running your car on flat tires because it has too much horsepower. It's a much better idea to lower the spring strength. If you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself, then pay someone else to do it. |
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Post by Ogre on Mar 12, 2014 9:28:11 GMT -5
That's why I don't do it anymore. Like I said, I works, but not advisable.
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Post by Knief on Mar 12, 2014 11:40:09 GMT -5
For what it's worth, a lot of G&Gs come hitting 355-360 out of the box, but very quickly drop down to about 330 FPS. Play a few outdoor games before you head to a CQB game and you should be shooting well below the 350 FPS limit. Obviously chrono the gun before and after to verify, but I've seen that same drop on a ton of G&Gs. If you've gone through a bag of bbs and haven't seen the FPS fall off, then worry about opening it up and swapping for a lower powered spring.
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