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Post by Ogre on Feb 27, 2014 17:08:47 GMT -5
No reason Mid caps wouldn't work if high caps work.
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Post by Bison on Feb 27, 2014 18:43:05 GMT -5
Pending the initial reviews on reliability and function I'm for sure picking this up. I love GBBRs but hate the low capacity and expensive mags and love the fusion engine but hate the air line. This seems to fall somewhere in between. I'm really hoping that the CO2 mags are functional. Anything >60 rounds per mag and I'd be allll over it. Plus the fact that Tippman has AMAZING QC with their markers. My 98c is still running strong with over a decade of abuse.
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Post by Gimpalong on Feb 28, 2014 9:11:20 GMT -5
Firing video: www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152080891169830This pretty much confirms that the fully-automatic function is achieved using an R/T (reactive trigger). You can see the trigger bouncing back as he applies pressure. This shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who has ever shot an R/Ted M98C, A5 or Automag RT, but it isn't really what I would call "fully-automatic" in the traditional sense. someone on ASC is reporting that the trigger is a bit different than a traditional R/T: on the hop-up: Question about efficiency: It also doesn't appear to have any sort of blow-back. They mention on the FB page that they were low on gas when filming, so that might account for some of the stuttering when firing. Image from ASC: "compatible with low, mid and high cap mags."
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Post by Gunny87 on Feb 28, 2014 9:22:23 GMT -5
I see it says under specs: Recoil: Gas Blowback
However it probably won't have the same kick as a DG or a GBBR.
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Post by Coldwave on Feb 28, 2014 10:31:25 GMT -5
I'd guess somewhere around the g&g gbbr's.
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Post by Gimpalong on Feb 28, 2014 10:32:33 GMT -5
Right, but I think in the paintball world there is a difference between "blow-forward" guns and "blow-back" guns. www.techpb.com/forum/topic/151972-blow-forwardblow-back/It's been a long time, but I seem to recall my VM-68 (dating myself here) and A5 were blow-back, and Automags were blow-forward. edit: I also wanted to add that the guy posting on ASC under the handle "R&D Engineer" is reportedly the Tippmann tech from the demonstration video posted by Tippmann on Youtube.
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Post by Zander on Mar 5, 2014 15:15:05 GMT -5
I'm kinda mehh on this without recoil. It could be a great backup to the DG I guess.
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Post by slippy on Mar 5, 2014 23:08:30 GMT -5
-_- It's a gas blow back.....
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Post by X on Mar 6, 2014 11:07:57 GMT -5
Honestly this seems like a solid alternative to a p*. I'm holding off on my next purchase to see some reviews on these.
I skimmed through the thread and didn't see anything. Does anyone have a guesstimate for a release date?
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Post by Gimpalong on Mar 6, 2014 11:16:41 GMT -5
I've heard "summer" and "August" from two sources. If you're a member of ASC you could always PM "R&D Engineer" and ask. He's one of the Tippmann employees working on the project.
The TC Paintball store in Traverse City will be getting these rifles when they are released and the owner has hopes to use them as rental guns for his little airsoft field.
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Post by Ogre on Mar 6, 2014 11:38:40 GMT -5
I've heard "summer" and "August" from two sources. If you're a member of ASC you could always PM "R&D Engineer" and ask. He's one of the Tippmann employees working on the project. The TC Paintball store in Traverse City will be getting these rifles when they are released and the owner has hopes to use them as rental guns for his little airsoft field. Expensive ass rentals. . I hope its sooner than August, I want to feild one of these during the summer milsim season.
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Post by Ogre on Mar 20, 2014 8:23:16 GMT -5
Any idea if the Tippmann will be able to take after market parts such as Tightbores, suppressors, extended barrels, Flat Hop, etc.
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Post by Gunny87 on Mar 20, 2014 8:31:13 GMT -5
Any idea if the Tippmann will be able to take after market parts such as Tightbores, suppressors, extended barrels, Flat Hop, etc.
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Post by Ogre on Mar 20, 2014 8:33:26 GMT -5
Any idea if the Tippmann will be able to take after market parts such as Tightbores, suppressors, extended barrels, Flat Hop, etc. Sorry, its been awhile since I actually went through the thread. My,bad.
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Post by Gimpalong on Jun 10, 2014 15:30:34 GMT -5
Hi guys, I just wanted to update this thread with the latest information regarding the Tippmann Airsoft M4, which I'm calling the TAR (Tippmann AR) for short. What do we know so far: Barrel nut forward and rear of the receiver backwards, the gun is supposed to be compatible with real steel components. The Tippmann guys mention in the interview video below that they looked at various airsoft manufacturer spec. parts and tried to defer to real steel AR specifications for (I guess) the barrel nut, receiver threads, buffer tube, etc. Hop-up unit itself is proprietary, but will accept AEG barrels, buckings and nubs. In the ASGI video below they mention having swapped the barrel, bucking and nub. May or may not ship with MBUS style front and rear sights. Self-retaining receiver pins that won't fall out. Internally adjustable for ROF and FPS. Maximum FPS being mentioned is 400, while maximum ROF being mentioned is 20. Rear receiver pin is supposed to have a spot to toss a zip-tie through to lock the receiver down so that it can't be adjusted on the field. CO2 magazines hold a 12 gram cartridge that is supposed to get around 80 shots per magazine. The 12 gram is retained in the magazine and a button the outside of the magazine has to be depressed to dump the 12 gram. So the 12 gram won't fall out if the magazine is upside down in a pouch. The CO2 magazines will vent during tactical reloads. Once the 12 gram is pierced the magazine cannot be removed from the gun without venting. The CO2 magazines are supposed to retail between $20 and $30 per magazine. Swapping from using CO2 magazines to using an air-rig involves removing a set screw and swapping out a valve. i.e. you can't go immediately from using a CO2 magazine to using the air-rig without cracking the gun open. When using the air-rig set-up regular AEG-style high-, mid-, and low-capacity magazines can be used. In the interview video the Tippmann staff mention testing the gun with a bunch of different mid-caps from different manufacturers. The air-rig does not require a regulator and can use either CO2 or HPA. The air-rig is basically a simple paintball style remote line. Operating pressure is likely to be pretty high in comparison to a DG, P* or Wolverine which all operate at less than 200psi. The gun was designed with the idea that the gun should be run using a remote for the best performance. The Tippmann guys mention wanting to give airsoft players unfamiliar with remotes a basic, out-of-the-box option for running the gun, hence the CO2 magazine. The guns are primarily manufactured in Indiana. Tippmann says they will provide a one year warranty on parts and labor. Released dates I've seen mentioned are late August to September. Interview with the Tippmann staff on "This Week in Airsoft." - Tippmann staff answer basic questions about the gun, compatibility with other airsoft manufacturers, etc. ASGI Preview (Part 1). - outdoor demo, shows modes of fire, mentions hop-up components. ASGI Preview (Part 2). - focuses on internals. Shows the CO2 magazine to air-rig swap.
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