Post by ATS on Jun 2, 2013 10:15:45 GMT -5
ATS has gladly held enjoyable events at both our Highland (White Lake Field) and at the 28mi and Gratiot Field.
Unfortunately,
The landowner at 28mi "Scarefest Park" has exercised his lease re-up to advise he wishes to increase the cost for rent, by 30%. He also wishes changes to ATS insurance,; he wants his entire family listed on it by name, his business and a few other changes. Any changes will have to be made, including new rent rate at 1st of each month, no late payments, irrespective of games being held, bad weather, etc...
This leaves two options and I am canvassing the mia board members for thier input....
We can pull out and develop Highland into a more inclusive place to play (I have partners with construction materials, and heavy equipment we can use at the Highland field, as well as a much less rigid and much less insulting (in person) landlord (though he is still a real character!)
In order to make 28mi remain an ATS field - we would need to do the following:
The place will become an Airsoft Club, with memberships - like a gym; you pay a monthly fee and that’s it (no weekly gaming fee) for 4 games a month. If a major, outside sponsor MilSim is held, that WOULD be separate( and not allowed to interfere wit standing REC gaming day-wise), though the prices will be low for ATS-Member attendance, as rent/insurance will be paid. I am thinking (don’t hold me to it) - fees along this structure:
Four games a month and any other REC , two day, overnight, etc. games held by ATS - a $20 MAX fee for te 2 or 3 times a year an outside team/agency sponsors a Mil Sim at the field (though nonmembers will pay minimum DOUBLE what "club" ATS Members will pay. Since we usually play 4 times a month, at $20 a game - the subscription -which is going to be in six month increments, will be $60 a month, If you come all four weekends, you get a free game. If you come twice, you kicked in $20 to keep the "Peoples field" open.
I have thought of an "associate membership at $40 a month - and you get TWO REC GAMES A MONTH at that level - NOTHING else.
Any player "walk in" who does NOT join, will pay again, 2x the$20 playing costs - there HAS to be incentive to join.... so a guy who shows twice, non-member - in one month, just cost himself 25% more than what he'd have paid as a member, for FOUR games.
I need thoughts, input, and Hell, if necessary, I will tell the landowner it is “in-supportable” and wave goodbye. He is NT a big airsoft fan... small things that occur - even wind damage or rot to his unattended dioramas ALWAYS end up being MY fault, and I pay him extra nearly monthly.. this will be no longer a part of this agreement... he will sign off on same, as long as there is no intended damage, it will NOT be our fault - if there is intentional damage - SOME player will see it occur, report it, the responsible player will be charged for damage, then kicked out for a time depending on severity...
I apologize guys, but this is a sport requiring professionalism. Other fields have gone under for being OVERE pro - and not getting the income, and opposite, others "fly by night", so well, then go under for a law suit.. I will not be party to either.
I am coming to YOU, the MI Airsoft community to tell me YOUR thoughts...
Talk to me (BTW Highland is everything from open field to elevation changes in the 100' range, swamps and heavy undergrowth, open fields with tall grass to berms, etc. and WILL be built up - BUT- it will be a much longer drive - approx 15 minutes past the Great Lakes Crossing Mall on 75.
Talk to me folks - I am listening - either Post, IM, or email me at mastergunr@yahoo.com
THADIUS - ATS
Unfortunately,
The landowner at 28mi "Scarefest Park" has exercised his lease re-up to advise he wishes to increase the cost for rent, by 30%. He also wishes changes to ATS insurance,; he wants his entire family listed on it by name, his business and a few other changes. Any changes will have to be made, including new rent rate at 1st of each month, no late payments, irrespective of games being held, bad weather, etc...
This leaves two options and I am canvassing the mia board members for thier input....
We can pull out and develop Highland into a more inclusive place to play (I have partners with construction materials, and heavy equipment we can use at the Highland field, as well as a much less rigid and much less insulting (in person) landlord (though he is still a real character!)
In order to make 28mi remain an ATS field - we would need to do the following:
The place will become an Airsoft Club, with memberships - like a gym; you pay a monthly fee and that’s it (no weekly gaming fee) for 4 games a month. If a major, outside sponsor MilSim is held, that WOULD be separate( and not allowed to interfere wit standing REC gaming day-wise), though the prices will be low for ATS-Member attendance, as rent/insurance will be paid. I am thinking (don’t hold me to it) - fees along this structure:
Four games a month and any other REC , two day, overnight, etc. games held by ATS - a $20 MAX fee for te 2 or 3 times a year an outside team/agency sponsors a Mil Sim at the field (though nonmembers will pay minimum DOUBLE what "club" ATS Members will pay. Since we usually play 4 times a month, at $20 a game - the subscription -which is going to be in six month increments, will be $60 a month, If you come all four weekends, you get a free game. If you come twice, you kicked in $20 to keep the "Peoples field" open.
I have thought of an "associate membership at $40 a month - and you get TWO REC GAMES A MONTH at that level - NOTHING else.
Any player "walk in" who does NOT join, will pay again, 2x the$20 playing costs - there HAS to be incentive to join.... so a guy who shows twice, non-member - in one month, just cost himself 25% more than what he'd have paid as a member, for FOUR games.
I need thoughts, input, and Hell, if necessary, I will tell the landowner it is “in-supportable” and wave goodbye. He is NT a big airsoft fan... small things that occur - even wind damage or rot to his unattended dioramas ALWAYS end up being MY fault, and I pay him extra nearly monthly.. this will be no longer a part of this agreement... he will sign off on same, as long as there is no intended damage, it will NOT be our fault - if there is intentional damage - SOME player will see it occur, report it, the responsible player will be charged for damage, then kicked out for a time depending on severity...
I apologize guys, but this is a sport requiring professionalism. Other fields have gone under for being OVERE pro - and not getting the income, and opposite, others "fly by night", so well, then go under for a law suit.. I will not be party to either.
I am coming to YOU, the MI Airsoft community to tell me YOUR thoughts...
Talk to me (BTW Highland is everything from open field to elevation changes in the 100' range, swamps and heavy undergrowth, open fields with tall grass to berms, etc. and WILL be built up - BUT- it will be a much longer drive - approx 15 minutes past the Great Lakes Crossing Mall on 75.
Talk to me folks - I am listening - either Post, IM, or email me at mastergunr@yahoo.com
THADIUS - ATS