auzzie
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Post by auzzie on Mar 14, 2013 9:48:58 GMT -5
My plan is to hold everything on my plate carrier so I don't have to worry about dragging my backpack and my Chi Con AK chest rig. Feels like with all of that extra room I have a greater chance of losing something or even someone might take something when I am not looking (never know). I can wear it in between games no problem and if need be, I can take it off to reach the back pouches. My main question is: would all of these fit?
-Condor / OE TECH Plate Carrier -Condor OE TECH Triple AK Magazine Molle Pouch -Condor / OE TECH Large Utility Molle Pouch. Holds snacks -Condor / OE TECH Gadget Molle Pouch. Holds cell phone, car keys, helmet cam during car transport, hex wrenches. Mounted on the rear -Condor / OE TECH MOLLE Handheld Radio Pouch -Condor / OE TECH Belt Mounted Magazine Recovery Pouch. Mounted on rear/side -Condor / OE TECH MOLLE Sunglasses Case. Hold goggles, goggle cleaning kit -Condor / OE TECH Admin Pouch. PATCHES! Holds wallet -Pantac 1000D Cordura Molle M60 100Rd Ammo Pouch. Holds BBs. Mounted on rear
What should I use to hold my VZ 61 drum mag?
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Post by Knief on Mar 14, 2013 9:57:51 GMT -5
That sounds like a tight fit, and you can probably use some of those pouches for double duty.
Any chance I can convince you not to buy Condor? Their nylon sucks pretty hard. I know going up to FLYYE or Pantac is a bit more expensive, but you really do get a much better product.
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Post by Gimpalong on Mar 14, 2013 10:10:14 GMT -5
It seems like you're planning on mounting a whole lot to this PC. Remember, the most important pouches that you are going need, not necessarily in order of importance, are:
1) Primary magazines pouches (rifle magazines) 2) Secondary magazines pouches (pistol magazines) 3) Dump pouch 4) Radio pouch 5) General purpose (GP) pouch for things like tools, extra bbs, batteries, speed loaders, etc 6) Hydration carrier, which you don't even have listed.
Here are my suggestions, take them with a grain of salt and decide on what will work for your needs.
I would ditch the following:
-Condor / OE TECH Large Utility Molle Pouch. Holds snacks
How many games have you been to where you've needed to carry snacks onto the field? If you do attend games regularly where you need food on the field, why not just leave that food in the spawn/dead-zone instead of carrying it around? The food and pouch itself adds weight and weight is the enemy.
-Condor / OE TECH Gadget Molle Pouch. Holds cell phone, car keys, helmet cam during car transport, hex wrenches. Mounted on the rear
This one is debatable. I think you could probably get away with putting your phone and wallet into your admin pouch. Your helmet cam should be on your helmet when you're on the field and in your kit box when you're off the field or driving to the field itself.
-Condor / OE TECH MOLLE Sunglasses Case. Hold goggles, goggle cleaning kit
Do you need a pouch to hold goggles? I usually just clip my goggles to a carabiner attached to my gear. The goggles are secured to me and when I need them I just unclip them and put them on. I leave my cleaning supplies in my kit box in my car.
I can understand this pouch from the perspective of LE or military since they may need to carry goggles with them, but not necessarily have them on. As airsofters, we always have our goggles on when we are on the field. So you're basically going to carry a pouch you only use when you're off the field onto the field. Again, extra weight is bad.
Substitute the following with something else:
-Pantac 1000D Cordura Molle M60 100Rd Ammo Pouch. Holds BBs. Mounted on rear
A SAW pouch is fairly bulky. You could probably get away with a medium sized general purpose pouch. I use a medium horizontal GP to hold extra BBs, a spare speed loader and any tools I might need.
I also echo Knief's suggestion that you look at Flyye or Pantac pouches. Not as inexpensive, but better quality overall.
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auzzie
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Post by auzzie on Mar 14, 2013 10:44:24 GMT -5
Can do and makes sense on some of that stuff. The plan for the bigger bag (for example the snack bag), I will get that closer to Op Lion Claws. I see all of these people running around with those three day back packs and what not so I was thinking that maybe they are in the field so long that there might stuff I should be carrying. Maybe they just carry rocks or foam blocks to make them selves look more 'realistic' in those huge games. *shrugs* I was under the impression that for the Lion Claws type games, it's basically you are in the field for long long periods of time. This is my first year going (yay!) so I have NO clue what I should bring into the field. I have never really seen any of these pouches up close other than the mag pouches. My bladder is basically one of these without the MOLLE stuff on it: www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7095I will carry this under the carrier. The main huge reason why I want to carry all/a bunch of my gear on me is the last couple big games, my back pack seemed way to large and just took up so much room. For the big games I go to, I car pool with two to three more people in the same car. Last game I went to, the three of us went in an SUV fully loaded with all of gear and guns. Took up so much room and it was crazy to find anything in my back pack in that chaos. To make it better, myself and my other friend will also be taking turns driving and we have cars thus less room. There might be a 4th person going sometimes. Even tighter... Knocked off the 60 bag, looking into a smaller bag, knocked off the goggle bag, stuff it in my cargo pockets. For the camera, yes it will be on my helmet... during the games. It will be stuffed away in that when I am coming back and going to the game driving wise. Might be able to stuff if in my other cargo pocket. Thanks guys, this does help me a bunch.
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Post by Combat Junkies Airsoft on Mar 14, 2013 11:11:42 GMT -5
As for OP: Northern Lights, I attended last year with a very heavy loaded second line and a battle belt for a first line. I also brought a 1961a as a back up lighter rig and by day two I ditched the heavy load for the chest rig which just carried mags, water, speed loader, and kill rag. If this year is anywhere near as HOT as last year I would suggest not running as heavy as a rig as you're considering.
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Post by Gimpalong on Mar 14, 2013 11:31:01 GMT -5
Yup, absolutely agree with what Combat Junkies has said.
I started NL with a chest rig filled with 8 magazines, a 1st line with pistol and 2 secondary magazines, and a rifle with optic.
By the second day, I had dropped the pistol, two secondary magazines, four primary magazines and replaced the optic with BUIS.
It was hot, super hot. Carrying all that extra gear can really it take out of you, especially if you're really moving big distances across the AO.
Figure out exactly what you need to play and carry just that.
Lion Claws games aren't necessarily any longer than your typical MILSIM style game. At NL, we were on the field, roughly, 4 hours in the morning, 4 hours in the afternoon and then 2 hours in the evening. Between morning and afternoon the event hosts stop the game for lunch, refills, etc.
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Post by Tank on Mar 14, 2013 14:26:55 GMT -5
For snacks, I simply squeezed three Clif bars in with my IFAK. I can tell you, from having attended Northern Light last year, having a quick snack like that in the middle of a 4 hour game is real nice.
I bought mainly Condor gear, I have the quick release plate carrier. It had held up just fine, but I can tell you that it is more bulky than the Flyye and Pantec gear they have mentioned. If I can afford to change out my plate carrier, after I finish buying everything else I'm buying this year, I will be picking up a 6094 made by one of those companies.
Also, to echo what others have said, I never even mounted my pistol for Northern Light. After hearing what seemed like revised rules on the Friday of the game. There was basically no reason to carry a pistol. We were told that our rife, that was supposed to have an MED of 10 or 20 feet (I don't recall the number), was allowed much closer, just on semi auto. With that in mind, the only use for a pistol was for backup, or extremely tight quarters (which doesn't really exist in this AO). So it's mostly dead weight.
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Post by Knief on Mar 14, 2013 14:47:32 GMT -5
Nuts to that, I got sweet pistol kill on Saturday and there was no way I could have maneuvered to get it with my rifle. Obviously your mileage may vary, but I've always been of the mind that a pistol is relatively light and can be very handy. I'm more inclined to look for other weight to drop first than ditch the pistol.
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Post by Relarz on Mar 16, 2013 16:17:12 GMT -5
That sounds like a tight fit, and you can probably use some of those pouches for double duty. Any chance I can convince you not to buy Condor? Their nylon sucks pretty hard. I know going up to FLYYE or Pantac is a bit more expensive, but you really do get a much better product. I disagree. The only reason to go with FLYYE or Pantac is to get an EXACT-ish copy of whatever more expensive TAG, Paraclete, Eagle, Allied Industries, or LBT product. I have seen side-by-side comparisons of Condor's new stuff come back from the SAME deployment as Eagle stuff, and both take the same wear and tear, and break down in the same spots at almost the identical rate. Any NEW Eagle shite that isn't .mil certified navyseal uber leet expensive is made in the DR anyway.
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Post by Knief on Mar 16, 2013 23:32:12 GMT -5
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I've seen enough out of Condor that's downright terrible to recommend against it all day every day.
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