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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 12:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by Fugazi on Dec 10, 2012 12:42:58 GMT -5
Most of my primary weapons in the past have been Combat Machines. They're light, solid, inexpensive, and internally durable. I do stupid, crazy shit to mine and they still last. Most people will tell you that's the route to go.
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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 12:48:47 GMT -5
Great! Would the GR16 count under that? And also, is the A1 reliable? I know it's probably just the same internals, but they seem to get different reviews.
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Post by Fugazi on Dec 10, 2012 12:51:56 GMT -5
Great! Would the GR16 count under that? And also, is the A1 reliable? I know it's probably just the same internals, but they seem to get different reviews. It's all up to your preference, but internally, they are identical. My Mk18 is built off of a GR16 and it's holding up fine!
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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 12:57:59 GMT -5
Ah! Good news, but did you change any of the internals in any of your CM's?
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Post by Ghast on Dec 10, 2012 13:00:31 GMT -5
Don't trust retailer reviews, ever. They're often written by the retailer themselves. Ah! Good news, but did you change any of the internals in any of your CM's? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Combat Machines are the way to go for budget guns, drop a tightbore into it and go to your next local skirmish.
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Post by ctres on Dec 10, 2012 13:03:07 GMT -5
Another good choice is the king arms full metal colt m4. They can be found under $200 in the US, have pretty good internals (though probably not as long of a track record as CMs) and the real trademarks are a huge plus.
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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 14:08:31 GMT -5
What about their blowback series?
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Dec 10, 2012 14:09:34 GMT -5
Avoid Electric blowback all together. It doesn't add anything to the gun aside from another thing to fail.
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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 14:14:07 GMT -5
Pretty much what I thought. I owned a Javelin EBB M4 (detest Javelin...) And ever since, I am trying to steer clear of EBBs, but I heard some good stuff on their GR15s.
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Post by ThompsonFTW on Dec 10, 2012 15:00:48 GMT -5
I'll play the devils advocate here. G&G has a proven track record of being reliable out of the box. However, their performance is meh. Not terrible but nothing special. They also have fairly weak internals. The good news is they are put together pretty well, which is why they are reliable. If you want a gun that will run and you don't care about performance its a great gun. If you would like to upgrade it internally within the next 6-12months I suggest going with the JG. Now I am assuming your price range is about $170. If it is then I suggest saving up another $50 for a Lonex AEG. They are getting rave reviews, in fact I'm selling my project gun now to get one. They cost only $220 and have metal bodies. So lets recap. G&G make a reliable product with weak internals that can make upgrading more costly. JG makes unreliable guns but they are very strong internally. (Their G36 line seems to be the most reliable...) Lonex is new to the AEG market but have been making great internals. (The best currently) The downside is its costly and we don't know the long term results of the gun. However from the reviews I have read it looks very nice.
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Post by ctres on Dec 10, 2012 15:22:26 GMT -5
Thompson: I agree with some of what you say, but I actually have a totally different theory.
The fact is that good externals are a lot more expensive than good internals. I would recommend something that you like externally really well, and if something breaks internally it will be cheap to fix, hence why I suggested the colt traded king arms m4. There is literally no other replica in that price range that is full metal with real trademarks. It is a great starting point for a beautiful external build.
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Post by Fugazi on Dec 10, 2012 15:41:33 GMT -5
While I agree that JG does make a good G36, I would still take a CM. The only way I ever broke one was by running it at 38rps for 6 months and 33rps for a year before that. Just don't crack the gearbox if you don't need to. As Ghast said, a tightbore will go a LONG way. With all the money you have left over, you can concentrate on making it look pretty or stocking up on mags or new batteries.
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Post by ThompsonFTW on Dec 10, 2012 15:45:36 GMT -5
Thompson: I agree with some of what you say, but I actually have a totally different theory. The fact is that good externals are a lot more expensive than good internals. I would recommend something that you like externally really well, and if something breaks internally it will be cheap to fix, hence why I suggested the colt traded king arms m4. There is literally no other replica in that price range that is full metal with real trademarks. It is a great starting point for a beautiful external build. Don't get me wrong. A King Arms is a great choice too. I was just throwing in my two cents. (I personally don't care too much about external...)
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Post by Abbot on Dec 10, 2012 15:55:20 GMT -5
I have to agree with both of you. Form what I've seen of JG's (Externally and internally), their externals are good on only some models. the M4 externals stink! Especially the body. Hate the grey. Meanwhile, the G&G CM is the darn best body I've ever seen, hence why I was looking at it. I have an adequate amount of tech-ing experience, so upgrading internals shouldn't be a problem.
Now, as for the Lonex AEG, saving up isn't my problem, it's having enough in my savings account for other bills. Also, I have never seen a Lonex AEG. Link? Airsofting is a hobby not an occupation, hence I would prefer to only get a 200+ AEG when I have some other job then a seasonal one, and have at least $200 to blow on airsoft. But thanks for the two cents, anyway, I really appreciate it.
As for the King Arms, I just haven't heard enough good stuff on them to justify getting one. And they're a wee bit outside of me price range. I really think I'll go with G&G over most manufacturers any day. True, trades are awesome. But to me, I'm just slinging plastic, and I don't find them awesome enough to justify getting one with them for a price a tad bit above my price range. Maybe when I have a better job. No offense, it's just me.
Cheers!
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