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Post by dantrog on Dec 7, 2012 8:52:01 GMT -5
Hi guys, I have some sub 200 dollar m16s and want to step it up to a decent gun. I am set on an ak platform rifle, and am probably looking at the 200-300 range now(which should give a big jump in performance right?). I have read a few reviews that say this gun is one of the best ak airsoft guns out there. I was just wondering if you guys have had any personal experience with this gun. Link: www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_107&products_id=4217
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Post by dantrog on Dec 7, 2012 8:54:01 GMT -5
my focus is on internals right now, because most of the reviews focus on externals almost exclusively.
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Post by Hunt on Dec 7, 2012 12:32:26 GMT -5
I don't have the personal experience that you are looking for, but if your focus is on internals, Tokyo Marui would be the best option.
Sure, they shoot sub 300 fps, but with their legendary hop-up systems, and the ability to add a nice tight bore barrel easily, you can have a very competitive gun.
Also, with all of the aftermarket parts available, you can do just about anything with the externals when that becomes a priority for you.
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Post by Guts and Glory on Dec 7, 2012 23:35:53 GMT -5
G&G's Kalashnikov line is notorious for their magnesium receivers snapping. I would strongly advise against them.
Several better options:
Dboys: If you can find an actual full steel model stateside (good luck), they are one of the better starting rifles. Internals are a mixed bag (some say steel versions are rock solid, some say potmetal versions are likewise, some complain that theirs failed quickly), but most run okay for the usual usage one would get before needing to replace parts. If you do a simple clean-up/reshimming, one will last you awhile. They takedown much like a real Kalashnikov, as they follow the VFC style of assembly. I own three, but that does not say much.
Cyma: As Dboys are seen as having better externals, cymas are seen has having better internals. Still not rock solid, but better built internally. A few of the latest models (cm.048 akm latest version) take down just like a VFC/dboys. Others follow TM style assembly with screws. I had a rebranded aks-74u of theirs, fell apart. Be very careful about model numbers, as some of the 40's are in fact based on older model assembly rather than new model assembly, and their internals are not as well assembled.
VFC: Known for their externals, internals not so good. Their Kalashnikov line has been slow in coming back into production.
LCT: Full guns use gearboxes that are a hit or miss (used to be cyma, some say they changed theirs around). Their kits are nice if you have the internals to drop in. The NV series are steel and have a hybrid assembly of VFC/TM takedown. Obviously not a starter choice.
TM: The EBB series are sort of neat, but the price is pretty much a stickler compared to getting a LCT or for that matter anything else. Their older Kalashnikov line is showing it's age, but their internals are still to be respected. If you find a used one cheap, and you can deal with plastic, go for it.
Other info:
ECHO1, Cybergun, UTG, etc.: Rebranders, why would you pay extra for them to slap ugly trademarks on? The quality control angle is in my opinion a farce.
JG: Oddly enough, I hear that their internals are pretty good, even better in some cases than cyma.
APS: Avoid like the plague/SARS/other horrible disease. Details are far off, internals are junk.
Honestly, I will say just get a dboys. You need to realize that just buying a more expensive model will not guarantee better performance. If I bought a $400 dollar LCT right now, I can almost guarantee my $130-180 dboys will outlive it internally.
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Post by dantrog on Dec 8, 2012 12:06:29 GMT -5
Thank you for the reply guts, it was very helpful. I ended up settling on the CM.048M because you as well as a bunch of other people have good things to say about it. Plus, the steel and wood is so sexy. I don't see how a gun that is renowned for its stock snapping off is even still on the market, i guess people don't always do their research before buying guns.
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Dec 8, 2012 13:41:00 GMT -5
Missed G&P Guts?
I had a G&G and the receiver cracked on it. I personally don't like Dboys/CYMA/Javelin/APS/UTG/SRC. AK's are picky IMO. They are one of the AEG's that can't be slapped together like most companies can do with M4's. Some add touches to their AK's that are nice, and some are just dumb (Javelin comes to mind in the WTF category of their engineering in their AK).
I would have personally went the route of the G&P AK since you wanted to dump more money towards a better gun instead of a sub-par gun. CYMA's may work, or at least get the job done, but if I had a $200+ budget to work with, I'd of personally rather went with the G&P. Sometimes G&P is a hit or miss gearbox wise, strictly because usually their gearboxes come just a tad over-shimmed. I always open mine up to get them purring like a tiger when I get them anyhow, so it bothers me none. G&P makes awesome externals, so I would think if you took the time to go through the internals, it'd of been a better buy than the CYMA.
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Post by Chubbs on Dec 8, 2012 18:59:55 GMT -5
My personal opinion. My first ever "real" Airsoft replica was a cyma Ak-74 (cm.031) it goes for $115 on Airsoft GI. I bought it in early 2011 late 2010 ish. I owned it until this past summer. Traded it in September. The only real problem I had was that my tappet plate and cut off lever needed to be replaced in this past may. Easy $35 fix with tech repair fees. Yes cyma is known for their low quality guns but I think they actually have some great beginner-novice player level guns. I had put nearly 40k rounds through it and only had a problem with my firing selection. Not bad if I say so myself. Yes I will admit that their guns can be hit and miss, but I definitely got a hit!
I know that I'm not very well known in this Airsoft community but I felt the need to put in my personal opinion. Hope this helped.
-Chubbs
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