Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jul 30, 2012 13:09:53 GMT -5
So, I have a WE 1911 that has just turned into a wall hanger and I would like to do something with it. Just for fun. I've seen this done and I would like to know how. So, here's the question:
How do I modify my WE 1911 to shoot fully automatic?
Any help would be appreciated.
Well, I finally got my 1911 to fire fully automatic. I am happy that it fires, but it stays fully automatic until it runs out of gas (It's still cool & fun). I am looking into creating a couple airsoft replicas of a certain weapon that was popular around 80 to 90 years ago ;D
To be as accurate as can be, the 1911 will need to be able to shoot in controlled bursts, also. I don't want the gun to shoot until all of the gas is expelled. I'm updating my thread to see if anybody knows how I can get the fully automatic fire CONTROLLED.
That being said, here's what I did...
First, I removed this piece from the frame, near the hammer:
Next, I rearranged the trigger springs in a certain way. This was a bitch to do in the first place, let alone find a way for it to stay. So I'm not going to disassemble the gun a this point. (PM me if you want some details on how to do it)
With these two steps done correctly, the hammer will not be able to lock back in place when the trigger is held down. This makes the replica fully automatic, right? Eh, not quite...
Once I finished these steps, I reassembled the replica for testing. I would pull the trigger, get one shot off, but when the slide released forward... this would happen...
Now, noticed how the slide is "locked", yet the slide lock is not engaged. This is because the hammer would start to move forward to quick for the slide to clear. Basically, the hammer was getting stuck on the slide. I would have to manually use my finger to "unstuck" them. To prevent this...
I used a Dremel tool to file down the hammer.
Once again, with high hope, I reassembled the replica and test fired again.
Test 1. Same issue
Test 2. Same issue
Test 3. 3 round burst
Test 4. Same issue
Test 5. Same issue & out of gas
Now, that 3 round burst at least gave me some hope..
I concluded that no matter how much I filed down the hammer (Within useable condition), it would still be likely to get stuck with the slide. I then toyed with it some more and did this...
Used the same Dremel tool to file down the part of the slide that was sticking with the hammer.
By filing the slide down enough, there would be nothing for the hammer to get stuck on.
I reassembled the replica, and dingdingding we have a winner!
Now I did this for my personal interest and because I want to perfect the concept. I still need to find a way to control the automatic fire. Which is what I am asking to you, MiA. How can I control the fully-automatic fire?
If you want, you can use this thread as a guide, but you must know a couple things.
1. I have not tested it with bb's, as my magazine has a broken feed lip. But I can imagine it's not that accurate.
2. IT EATS GAS LIKE AN EFFING 1970'S 18 WHEELER.
3. Once the gun is modified in the way I described, it can not be turned back to semi-automatic without buying a new hammer and slide.
Here's is the firing video (Fast Forward to 0:59 for a better burst. There wasn't enough gas in the first one) :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJM-T-OfPw&list=UUQi2Y68td7zA9pLUVGGvWIQ
Thanks, guys and gals!)
How do I modify my WE 1911 to shoot fully automatic?
Any help would be appreciated.
Update
(Firing Video at the bottom of the OP)
Well, I finally got my 1911 to fire fully automatic. I am happy that it fires, but it stays fully automatic until it runs out of gas (It's still cool & fun). I am looking into creating a couple airsoft replicas of a certain weapon that was popular around 80 to 90 years ago ;D
To be as accurate as can be, the 1911 will need to be able to shoot in controlled bursts, also. I don't want the gun to shoot until all of the gas is expelled. I'm updating my thread to see if anybody knows how I can get the fully automatic fire CONTROLLED.
That being said, here's what I did...
First, I removed this piece from the frame, near the hammer:
Next, I rearranged the trigger springs in a certain way. This was a bitch to do in the first place, let alone find a way for it to stay. So I'm not going to disassemble the gun a this point. (PM me if you want some details on how to do it)
With these two steps done correctly, the hammer will not be able to lock back in place when the trigger is held down. This makes the replica fully automatic, right? Eh, not quite...
Once I finished these steps, I reassembled the replica for testing. I would pull the trigger, get one shot off, but when the slide released forward... this would happen...
Now, noticed how the slide is "locked", yet the slide lock is not engaged. This is because the hammer would start to move forward to quick for the slide to clear. Basically, the hammer was getting stuck on the slide. I would have to manually use my finger to "unstuck" them. To prevent this...
I used a Dremel tool to file down the hammer.
Once again, with high hope, I reassembled the replica and test fired again.
Test 1. Same issue
Test 2. Same issue
Test 3. 3 round burst
Test 4. Same issue
Test 5. Same issue & out of gas
Now, that 3 round burst at least gave me some hope..
I concluded that no matter how much I filed down the hammer (Within useable condition), it would still be likely to get stuck with the slide. I then toyed with it some more and did this...
Used the same Dremel tool to file down the part of the slide that was sticking with the hammer.
By filing the slide down enough, there would be nothing for the hammer to get stuck on.
I reassembled the replica, and dingdingding we have a winner!
Now I did this for my personal interest and because I want to perfect the concept. I still need to find a way to control the automatic fire. Which is what I am asking to you, MiA. How can I control the fully-automatic fire?
If you want, you can use this thread as a guide, but you must know a couple things.
1. I have not tested it with bb's, as my magazine has a broken feed lip. But I can imagine it's not that accurate.
2. IT EATS GAS LIKE AN EFFING 1970'S 18 WHEELER.
3. Once the gun is modified in the way I described, it can not be turned back to semi-automatic without buying a new hammer and slide.
Here's is the firing video (Fast Forward to 0:59 for a better burst. There wasn't enough gas in the first one) :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJM-T-OfPw&list=UUQi2Y68td7zA9pLUVGGvWIQ
Thanks, guys and gals!)