auzzie
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Post by auzzie on Jul 4, 2012 9:17:45 GMT -5
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Post by mitchem8 on Jul 4, 2012 9:24:37 GMT -5
Check on ebay. There are tons of ANSI approved goggles on there VERY cheap. I bought a pair of ESS Locusts for $20 shipped, and they were brand new.
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Post by Psychosis on Jul 4, 2012 9:41:42 GMT -5
The whole "anti-fog" lens thing is a myth, and the ones you linked have absolutely no ventilation. Get a good pair of ESS goggles and scrape the foam off around the sides.
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Post by Da Vinci - Да Винчи on Jul 4, 2012 11:03:47 GMT -5
Get a good pair of ESS goggles and scrape the foam off around the sides. Doing that works like a charm. I bought a pair of ESS NVG goggles for like $12 at the local surplus store, they work and look great. |
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Post by Psychosis on Jul 4, 2012 12:08:07 GMT -5
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YoYo-Pete
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Post by YoYo-Pete on Sept 6, 2012 9:21:41 GMT -5
Some Karma for Psychosis on the ebay tip. Just got "ESS PROFILE NVG UNIT ISSUE GOGGLE, NATO, FOLIAGE GREEN" for less than $20 with clear and dark lens. (I want the amber lens, which retails for $20... which is more than I paid for goggles and 2 lenses.) I had to agree to not sell this to foreign enemies of the US as well before I could buy it from ebay.
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Post by Zorak on Sept 6, 2012 9:57:48 GMT -5
There are a couple issues with the DeWalts. First, there's nothing I can find suggesting that they have the ANSI certification for impact resistance. The refs at any given event might not be checking for that, but I sure as hell would not trust my eyes to any uncertified gear. Second, they're safety yellow around the edges. That's going to be conspicuous as hell on the field and you're going to wish you had something else, so why waste the money?
Aside from visibility considerations, you'll also get a lot of funny looks and mockery. I think most people in this sport would understand why a new player might have an off-brand gun and only a single hi cap. We understand why someone might show up to their first few games in jeans and work shirts. Eye protection is in a different category, though, because it's basic safety equipment. Find the time and money to do it right.
Edit: Apparently Ghast is much better than I am at reading comprehension.
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Post by Ghast on Sept 6, 2012 10:26:09 GMT -5
"Tough, polycarbonate lens meets ANSI Z87.1+ standards"
But they look goofy as hell and I'd sure as shit notice a big yellow band around your face.
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Post by Gunny87 on Sept 6, 2012 11:50:59 GMT -5
Get a good pair of ESS goggles and scrape the foam off around the sides. Doing that works like a charm. That still didn't work for me. I removed the rubber inserts on my Flackjacks, and removed the foam on my old Bolle X500's and I still had them fog even with anti-fog spray. The only thing that I've ever found to work is 2 PC fans rigged to prevent any fogging. Only goggles that I've owned that have not fogged on me are my Bolle T800's but eventually any sweat will run down the lens and create visibility issues occasionally so I revert to my Flackjacks with fans. I think it's already been mentioned but there are also clone ESS turbofan goggles running pretty cheap in Ebay. |
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Post by Knief on Sept 6, 2012 14:31:40 GMT -5
ESS Turbofan Knock offs: shop.ehobbyasia.com/combat-gears/goggles-glasses/ea-gear-turbo-fan-dl-goggle-set-foliage-green.htmlThey have them in black and tan too, but they're out of stock. I'm of the [mostly unfounded] opinion that these aren't knock offs so much as ESS QC rejects. Guns McBen and I each have a pair and everything about them screams ESS. Even the little circuit board that controls the fan speed is marked ESS, which seems like an awful lot of work for knock offs. Which brings me to my second point. We had to do work on both pairs to get them to function properly. Ben had to do some electrical work to get two speeds out of his fan, which is how we saw the board in the first place. I had to trim an ass ton of plastic off of the fan blades that had clearly overflowed out of the mold. My job was easier, 10 seconds with a utility knife. I don't know if Ben ever got his goggles working 100%, now that I think about it. I keep these as back ups and for those really humid days when you know everything else will fog up. The fan, at high speed, does a good job of clearing out heat and moisture. But my Bolle T-800s are so much more comfortable and fog so little that the ESS's rarely see the light of day. It's a damn shame Bolle stopped making the T-800s. |
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Post by Thor on Sept 6, 2012 15:22:22 GMT -5
I am also of the opinion that those "knock-offs" are QC rejects. All the packaging and markings on them is exactly the same as the real deal from what I could tell. I have a pair and they work pretty well, the only thing I don't like about them is that they don't sit on my face very comfortably, but they don't really fog for me either. Otherwise Oakley makes some nice goggles that feel like a pillow on your face, their MX series. They offer them to the military, only difference is the band doesn't have the Oakley logo on it. Otherwise the all black ones are exactly the same.
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Post by Cats (Doom) on Oct 8, 2012 18:55:01 GMT -5
Just going to second Gunny87's statement about the FlakJaks, I've read way to many positive reviews about them online but the truth of the matter is they fog badly, avoid them. I still haven't found anything that doesn't fog and seats comfortably around my thin glasses frames, glad I read this though because ESS is now next on the list of goggles to try. [EDIT] Found this pic and it made me think of Knief and Thor's previous posts. Don't know if this is really new news or not.  |
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Post by Connors on Oct 19, 2012 20:34:43 GMT -5
If you can find a set of Revisions for cheap, get them and rip the foam around the lens vents out. We use the same model Psychosis linked in our Flight deck Cranial helmets in the USCG. I've used them in the 90+ heat and insanely high humidity of teh south/central Pacific and they NEVER once fogged on me.
Bolle T-800/X-800's are also really nice. I have a pair myself and I've been using them for a few years with no problems. You should be able to find a new pair for relatively cheap.
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Post by Phantom G3 on Oct 20, 2012 9:14:45 GMT -5
I have a pair of Revision goggles that I took out the foam around the vents like Connors said. I haven't had a single fog problem yet.
You can see them in my picture
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